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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This post is a straw-man argument because almost nobody redshirts their kid. Even the vast majority of kids born between October and December start on time. I started a year late because I'm small and would've looked like a hobbit next to my peers, but I'm over 30 now and can count on one hand the number of people I know, myself included, who were redshirted. So you just sound like a hammer looking for a nail.[/quote]

Of course Oct-Dec go on time because in almost every state they are the oldest. Not NY so you must be from NY.[/quote]

DP but from New York and have kids with fall birthdays.

First of all, most privates here have a 9/1 or 10/1 cutoff. It’s the public schools and a handful of privates (including ours) that have 12/31 cutoffs.

A lot of people do hold back fall (and summer) birthdays here, especially boys. In my son’s private with a 12/31 cutoff, 50% of fall birthdays redshirt.

It was much less common when we were growing up, and is more confusing now that NY is such an outlier from the rest of the country with its late cutoff. It’s primarily so low income families have access to childcare sooner, including universal prek. It’s not because it developmentally appropriate for most children to start today’s very structured and sedentary kindergarten curriculum at 4 years old -[b] it’s primarily a better alternative to low quality childcare for low income families. [/b]
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Debatable. Kids who go to KG as 4 year olds in NYC are even less ready for the developmentally inappropriate, sedentary curriculum and are more much more likely to have behavioral and academic difficulties (which can really impact their attitude towards school and success later down the line). In fact, controlling for demographics, the students with late birthdays in NYC were significantly more likely to be labeled with a learning disability and the strongest variable predicting that label was birth month.

That's in addition to the finding -- in states with September cutoffs -- that kids with August birthdays are more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD.

I'm not convinced that being labeled with a [i]disability[/i] and then having to navigate the world of special education, or dealing with the often devastating consequences as being labeled a "behavior problem" as a youngster -- simply because the late birthdays are pushed into developmentally inappropriate expectations that they cannot meet, NOT because they *actually* have a disability or a serious behavior problem -- is a better alternative. [/quote]

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