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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I had been a lifelong Republican, but I've voted Democrat the last 2 presidential elections, since Trump was nominee. And I will vote for Harris this time.

I miss the normal Republican party - not this cult party we have now with a man of zero character and leadership remaking it in his own image. I know every politician spins and deflects to some extent, but Trump's incessant and compulsive lying is next level. His disrespect for the Constitution and America is disqualifying.

Which brave Republicans have risked being on Trump's retribution/enemies list to say "don't vote for this man" and that they are not voting for him? I want to remember and celebrate them.

The only way to get the normal Republican party back is if we defeat Trump (for the second time) definitively.

Who else wants the normal, sane, rational Republican party back? This dystopian alt-right cult version is unrecognizable and disturbing. [/quote]

A healthy and strong GOP Party will lead to a more healthy and stronger Dem Party and we all would benefit if our two major parties were functioning like they were back when our choices for POTUS were people like GHWB and Clinton [b]and Congress was able to put their partisan squabbles aside long enough to function adequately .[/b] As it is, there is no equating the two major parties during the Trump era but the Dem Party establishment has shot themselves in the foot over and over by trying to manipulate things to where they are assured of nominating a candidate that the base and donors approve of so not to rock the boat while at the same time being just good enough to beat Trump. Just good enough to beat the most awful candidate in American history is not good enough.

For the GOP it's much simpler. They went from a solid history of nominating decent and well qualified people 95% of the country could respect even if they disagreed with policy to nominating Trump for three consecutive elections. How do you go from Reagan, the Bushs, Dole, McCain, and Romney to three consecutive nominations of Trump? It's not the same party it used to be but it's still feasible for the sensible majority in the party to return back to party of Lincoln, Teddy R, Eisenhower, and Reagan after Trump is dead or incapacitated.[/quote]

The congress was functioning fine until Newt started the process of total obstinance and government shutdowns rather than compromise.

Again, don't blame the democrats for this. The Dems have never supported government shutdowns.[/quote]

Not equating the two "sides" but your fooling yourself if you think it's one party that is responsible for all the political games that lead to a poorly functioning government. Newt's cut throat political style was a game changer and that movement along with social media and cable news exploding led to division in politics like we've never seen before. [/quote]

What did the democrats do to change rules that lead us to where we are (and don't ascribe changing the filibuster that Reid did because McConnnell refused to allow Obama appointments through to the point the Chief Justice had to beg the Senate to change to rules before the judicial branch collapsed)[/quote]

Not equating two sides here. There is fair blame to be cast at who started certain things first. This doesn't change the fact that our two parties have used their power to evolve into entities that are now too big to fail as rules have been put into place to make a 3rd party emergence nearly impossible. This gives the flexibility to play political games that only serve to benefit them during election cycles and not to serve in manner that is helpful to the American people.

Case in point- the Biden Administration along with Congress could have and should have pushed the border bill proposes last year much sooner. They chose to wait until election season knowing that it was unlikely the GOP would allow it to pass and therefore they could use that as a campaign tool to offset doing nothing to improve the situation at the border for the first two years of Biden's presidency and they can fairly say accuse the GOP of not passing a bill that would have been helpful. That's a political game that does nothing to help our country but it does it help Dems in re-election bids. There is no recourse for such political games because they have no fear of the American people saying we've had enough and ditching them for a 3rd party.

Republicans pushed the Citizens United decision allowing money to become a much bigger influence in politics. Blame them for that. This being said; both parties have played the money game and it's both parties who are now forced to prioritize the interest of their big money donors as opposed to the prioritizing the interest of all Americans. Again, very little we can now do to change that. It is what it is. [/quote]

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