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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I wasn't there for that trash talk, but sometimes I see my kids (one boy, one girl) pile on each other just to score points/try to be funny/have something to say. I discourage it and sometimes they'll tell me, "That's just how we talk!" I truly see them not knowing what to talk about sometimes, so they'll just go in on each other. I'm not proud of it and not excusing it, but maybe that's an answer to the, "Why so much trash talk?"

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There’s a difference between trash talk amongst peers and friends and cruel ridicule of kids who are weaker.   They know the difference.  
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No they don't the difference. At all. Kids are horribly insecure at that age. They can't tell the difference. They know whey they are doing it but to the recipient of the trash talk, their feelings are easily hurt.[/quote]

OP here: Yup. These are his friends. I mean as I said the main kid here practically lives at our house. These are people he considers his best friends, and they consider him their best friends. It still hurts when your friends rag on you. The kids don't seem to know the line. Which I know they are learning and will figure it out one day (i hope!). Doesn't mean it doesn't hurt along the way.

I don't think he has any desire to ditch these people, but just wishes they would recognize his other accomplishments sometimes and not just care about sports.

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You said in your original post that his one true friend moved.   Now you’re saying they consider your son their best friend.  Best friends go to each others activities.

My son was horrible at sports.  One summer when he was nine years old I sent him to a local that was held at a private school that had a lake.  I did not realize that the sports would be taken so seriously.  His first two days the bullies were laughing at him, mimicking him, mocking him.  I called to tell them the problem he was having.  They apologized and the bullying stopped right away.

That was the last time I made the mistake of thinking I could just sign him up for any camp.  I picked appropriate camps from then on with no problems.

The top athletes usually don’t bother tormenting the less talented team mates.  It’s usually the ones who are better than their target but not that great themselves.  And his sobbing makes it apparent that it wasn’t just fun trash talking.

I hope you can find a great STEM summer camp program where he will be his element and can hold his own.

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My son plays tennis. He used to be the best in his tennis clinic full of supposed elite tennis players. The other kids would try to knock my son down. I never knew exactly what they said but my kid withdrew from us and tennis and was depressed. We left that tennis academy and he took a break from tennis. That was back when he was 12. We have moved to a different tennis club and he has grown and is winning tournaments.

My friend’s son joined a similar tennis academy and worst in his group. My friend said her son often comes home crying. He is also 12.

So kids knock down the best kid, the worst kid and the middle kid. I am pretty sure my kids don’t do that to others. They better not.[/quote]

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