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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s an easy solution- it just requires a president willing to put in the hard work and be really unpopular for a generation or two afterwards. 1) issue an EO that bans all guns. Ignore Supreme Court. Ignore constitution. 2) offer 30 days to turn them all in. 3) offer HUGE bounties and rewards for turning in people with guns after the deadline. Make the public turn on each other and do the dirty work for govt so govt doesn’t need to. 4) use UN peacekeepers from other countries to hunt down and crush people still possessing guns. Kill as many as possible, to make examples. Kill millions. This has a bonus of also getting rid of repub voters, because the Ven diagram of gun nutters and R voters is a perfect circle. 5) anyone caught with a gun starting one years after the EO gets the death penalty. No appeal, sentence carried out within 1 hour of judges verdict (no jurors on gun cases) That’s how you do it. You just need elect someone with the courage to carry it out. I’d love to see the country this would create, 5 years after it was implemented. [/quote] So you want a dictator, think US citizens would behave in the same manner as citizens as the former Soviet Union, think UN troops could disarm the American public and everyone would live in peace and harmony every after? Quite the vivid imagination you have. :) [/quote] I don’t believe everyone will live in peace and harmony. I believe a lot of gun extremists need to die and will die in the process. And I don’t give a **** about them. I care about the rest of us, the 240 million people who DON’T have guns. If some of those gun nutters surrender peacefully and turn their guns in by the deadline then that’s fine. Then can all have reduced or light sentences, fines, probation and the like. They will be treated easily. It’s the holdouts I want to see getting slaughtered in the streets. And yes, the UN will happily assist our country if we ask them to. Because their support is essential to the process. We cannot trust our own military and law enforcement, which has been heavily infiltrated by the right wingers, to carry out gun safety initiatives like this because too many of them cannot be trusted to crack down on these criminals. And by “behave in the same manner as citizens of the former Soviet Union” you mean not murder their fellow citizens with guns then yes that is exactly how I expect them to behave. The Soviets were’t plagued with guns and gun nutters and crime. They dealt with malcontents harshly and immediately, and had a essentially crime free society because of it. Their human rights record leaves a lot to be desired in terms of political dissidents, but for the everyday ordinary person, the6 didn’t have to wonder if they’d be massacred every time they left their homes. It’s not a vivid imagination. It’s a vision. And if we can elect someone with the courage to carry it out, we can achieve it. Otherwise we’ll also be at the mercy of republicans and the gun lobby. And I’ve had enough of both to want them exterminated. [/quote] You think UN Peacekeepers are going to go house to house in every state? UN Peacekeepers are going to willingly give their lives and die far away from their families to take guns from American citizens? Why would UN Peacekeepers do that? Not many people will give their lives for others. I highly doubt UN Peacekeepers will accept the mission of going house to house in America. American leo and military aren’t giving up their guns, they aren’t going to kill their fellow Americans to take their guns. The majority of gun deaths occur in the Black community. Blacks make up 70% of the gun homicide victims, and these victims are shot and killed by another Black person. [/quote]
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