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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think it's a great move by companies as it will allow more access to professional jobs. 
I don't think it will dramatically shift the US culture of valuing a college degree anytime soon. In a million ways, college experiences create an advantage for those who attend over those who don't. Think about the hs kids who went away to college, vs those who only attended community college or who never went. Put them both in a boardroom. Who wins? [/quote]

My kid has a welder/CNC-fabricator. Put him in a machine shop with a Wharton School MBA, have both build automated package handling systems for an Amazon distribution center.

Who wins? [/quote]

The Wharton grad who consults about process and walks away with 50x whatever the CNC operator can get away with charging [/quote]

That wasn’t the scenario as-defined. I’m sorry your reading comprehension so poor. MBA? 
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Do you really think a cnc operator is capable of delivering an automated package handling system for Amazon? There are engineers who spend their entire careers specializing in designing those systems. [/quote]

Again - your reading comprehension fails you.

I didn’t say “CNC operator”. I said CNC [i]fabricator[/i].

I used the Amazon example because my son actually did that exact contract for an Amazon distribution center in Kansas City. [/quote]

But what is your point? Okay, so your son can build things for Amazon, that’s awesome. Clap. But guess what, other types of workers are also necessary to make a business and a country successful. Knowledge work is work too, and is needed for our current society to function.

Please stop gloating bc your son did not operate in a vacuum. He was part of a team of people with different strengths and skill sets who came together to deliver that system for Amazon. So you should give all those others their kudos too, including the IT people who programmed it, the attorneys that wrote and reviewed the contracts, the accountants and finance professionals who tracked expense and made sure your son and everyone else got paid, the consultants who designed and delivered training and decks for the whole thing, etc.

Understand that trades people do not operate in a vacuum or silo. No one does. That lady with the welder daughter forgets to embrace that her DD will hire attorneys, tax people and accountants if/when she starts a business, and will be going to bankers for funding and money management. [/quote]

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