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Too late but this is a wholesale parenting fail:

https://www.waituntil8th.org/

Let this serve as a warning to parents w/ younger children who don't yet have phones.

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I’m sorry, this is well meaning but not realistic [/quote]

I just looked at that site for the first time in years. They do seem to have evolved with the times and instead of saying "no phones til 8th" they now say "no smartphones til 8th" and make suggestions about other devices for parents to keep in touch (if that's the excuse). The social pressure is tough for the kids though.[/quote]

My 13 year old daughter got her first smartphone the summer before 8th. She had an apple watch starting in grade 6 and she has tons of friends. It's really not that hard.[/quote]

+1 both of my kids waited/will wait until 8th for a phone. They had/have iPads at home for messaging friends, if they want, but when they’re out in the world, they’re expected to be engaged with what’s happening in real time. I have seen way too many situations like the OP describes and I think it’s near tragic how many parents excuse their kids’ rude, antisocial, or just plain tacky behavior. Not surprising, though. [/quote]

I have 12 and 14yo boys and they are not on their phones when together. Sure, they may show one another some videos but it is not for long.

My friend’s daughter lives on her phone. She is an only child. She is always texting and FaceTiming with friends. When they are together, they take pictures, make TikTok’s and FaceTime their friends not with them.[/quote]

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