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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]same. parents who are paying 50k are making calls if their kid gets a B. [/quote] Exactly. The more expensive the school, the more inclined the school would be to provide the best customer experience. [/quote] My family is literally among the top 2% of donors to a local DMV very rigrorous private--we're talking high 7 figures over the years. My child has ADHD but works very hard and does okay. She is immature and sometimes that shows in the classroom, though not in her actual work. But her immaturity does create bias in some teachers, particularly the really arrogant ones. One history teacher, a man in his 70s, who is the most arrogant, ineffective teacher she has ever come across, called her stupid in various forms, in front of the class, consistenly. Things like: If you ask a question that stupid again I will remvoe you from this classroom. In the end, he gave her Cs on almost every paper she handed in, and Bs and B-s on tests, based mostly on the subjective grading part (in other words, she always knew the answers, but he took off so many 1/2 points here and there for style-related things that he didn't like that her entire score would come down). While she spoke with the school resource teacher, DD was insistent we not do anything about it, that this is the way teachers are sometimes and she'll just keep working to do better. Great attitude, right? She worked day and night on her final paper. She needed a B+ or better to get her grade up to a B- for the year. She had another history teacher from a different grade proofread it for her and he said it was exellent. She got a C--he took two points off of very single footnote because she put a comma in the wrong place so they were technically the wrong format. That was the final straw for me and I went to the school. They would not consider reviewing her work. That's all I asked for. For an objective, independent teacher to review the paper, and possibly some of the other work, in comparison to other students because it was clear he was not treating her fairly. They wouldn't budge. She got As in every other history cass and took advanced levels in her junior and senior years. This was unfair grading and definitely not inflated. Trust me, at these privates, it does not matter how much you pay or how much you donate. They will not change grades.[/quote] Do you think teachers like this do not exist in public schools?[/quote] There's probably more of them. The point is, even the most connected, biggest donors to private school are not able to get grades changed, which is the assertion by many posters here. At publics, and this is absolute fact, that student would have had the chance to re-do the paper and re-take tests until they got an A. This is why more than half of APS students have over 4.0s. They take and retake until the get As.[/quote] I'll take your word on this for these particular public schools, but my kids are in public schools in nyc and I've never heard of anyone at their schools or any school around here letting kids "re-take tests until they get an A". That's not a thing. We have kids with C averages, for sure. We have kids who flunk out. We have kids who immigrated the day before they start school on a random Tuesday midyear, having no English. 10% of nyc students are in "transitional housing" (have no permanent home, in shelters, etc). A substantial number don't graduate and the number going on going onto 4-year residential colleges is not high. Not enough space to get into the lack of resources on the school side, but the average student per college counselor ratio is 500:1 here. There's maybe one all-class presentation on how it works and that's it. Essay help, LOL. You think a teacher with 34 kids in their class is going to offer to administer tests multiple times? Are you high? Just the idea that families in public schools are gunning and gunning to game the system by retaking tests to get to XYZ college and grabbing some unfair advantage over your kid is to display an utter lack of awareness of what families and schools struggle with. So, no, redoing things til you "get an A" is not an option. [/quote]
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