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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think it will vary. Some schools will be happy to just enroll the best students and other will drop aa in favor of economic diversity [/quote]

You make it sound like wanting diversity is at odds with enrolling the best students. I find these assumptions to be suspect. Like the posters who define merit as whatever benefits them the most.[/quote]

The way diversity is defined and implemented today, yes, it is absolutely at odds at enrolling the best students. There is such a huge skills gap between the average URM and non URM applicant, that there is a serious shortage of equivalently qualified URM applicants in the application pipeline. If a college insists on getting anything close to proportional representation despite this, then by definition they have to pick lower qualified URM students to fill their class. The only way to claim that diversity does not affect quality today, is to redefine the very meaning of the word merit to something nonsensical, like Harvard did by introducing spurious variables like the personality ratings into the mix.

Also in every country where diversity is actually present, it has led to destruction of social cohesion, social trust and increase in friction. The former Yugoslavia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Myanmar being some examples) Diversity advocate have only recently recognized this because now they are insisting on "inclusion" as being another responsibility of the non URM pool. This is just code for non URM's having to walk on eggshells, so as not to trigger or piss off URM's on campus. It's a fool's errand. Human kind is tribal by nature and just like diversity brought strife all over the world, it is destroying America's campus environment today.[/quote]

So what is your solution? Whine endlessly about it? Or have no diversity and every racial group sticks to themselves? It’s too late for that. This country is diverse and we’d better continue to figure out ways to get along and include everyone because diversity isn’t going anywhere.[/quote]

The issue there is that “include everyone” means racial quotas for everything, everywhere.  This necessarily entails systematic discrimination against higher performing groups, in the college rat race this is whites and especially Asians.  Few are willing to honestly defend that practice, which is unpopular (affirmative action loses basically every time it’s put to a vote), so instead affirmative action advocates 1. deny the obvious and 2.  Insist that the losers shut up. This of course is desperately unfair to those who are on the losing end of “inclusion” initiatives, who are denied opportunities they would have obtained in a race-neutral procedure, but worse still they get gaslit and told the URMs that benefit from these efforts are “actually more qualified.”  And of course even implying that any particular URM benefited from affirmative action practices is an unspeakable sin, which will get you thrown into the outer darkness as you have demonstrated you are not with the program.  “Now that the country is diverse America has to radically change our values and practices to ensure inclusion” is not a message that is going to cause social harmony.[/quote]

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