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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The thing is women have right to divorce these men and move on, freeze embryos etc but they chose to stay in these fruitless pointless marriages. So it's the women mistake just as much as his avoidance of commitment to her[/quote]

+1  No one is 'stealing' anyone's fertility.  There are many ways to become a mother. [/quote]

That's not a fair statement. These relationships are usually the husband lying to the wife about wanting kids, dragging the timeline while pretending the marriage is great and then blindsiding the wife with a divorce once the wife demands a definitive time for a baby. Why would the wife freeze her eggs if her husband is telling her he wants kids? Should all women be entering marriages under the assumption their husbands will leave them and they need to safeguard their fertility? That's a crappy way to enter marriage. [/quote]

If he’s saying he wants children, but not actively taking steps toward trying to conceive, then he’s demonstrating that he doesn’t really want children on the same timeline. You can call him a liar and complain about it, but I agree with those who are saying that women have agency. If you are not getting what you want in a situation, then you need to take steps to change it. That can be through communication and compromise or divorcing and finding another partner with a similar timeframe, but women can’t afford to simply wait and hope as their eggs dry up and then point fingers when they don’t get the children they wanted.[/quote]

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