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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Her gpa at end of senior year won’t matter. If you do ED they’re looking at grades end of junior year plus courses in progress. Similar with RD but first semester senior grades are complete. [/quote]

Yes, but when you view the median GPA at SHEV or Naviance, those are senior year grades. As a prior poster pointed out, your GPA jumps a lot junior and senior year if you take a lot of APs. Also Naviance matters more than anything for the individual student. The average admitted GPA for my kid’s HS, for example, is 4.1 because it’s a private school without a lot of AP options. [/quote]

But for Langley it’s a 4.47. You have to compare against the top gpa possible at your high schoolZ the college counselor should help. Naviance will help. OP also needs to ask high school counselor if they will be checking the most rigorous box. That’s a necessity for UVA and OP’s kid should be in the top 6 percent of their class. Also OP’s daughter shouldn’t ho TO unless hooked. TO only favors the hooked [/quote]

Yes, that’s why I said you need to look at Naviance. GPA varies from school to school. Also Dean J says repeatedly to stop looking at the GPA in isolation because, as you noted, it’s the rigor on the courses that matter.

TO does not favor those who are hooked. UVA  is very explicit, verbally in their admission seminars, and in writing, that students do not need to submit scores, and tells kids not to take the SAT or submit a score if they do not want to do so. If schools lie about this they will end up being sued and they know that (per an actual counsel at UVA). Plus the existence of TO is leading to inflated SAT stats. If you want to see the real SAT averages for a school, go back to 2019. That’s what they will look like if school removed the test optional option.

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If UVA did not want applicants to take the SAT, then they would be test blind.  They are not.  The common data set says such scores are considered.  So if other factors (grades, ECs, etc.) being more or less equal (and no hooks), the applicant with a good SAT score will beat out the TO applicant.[/quote]

+1. This. Go look at the results of Ed, RA and RD both here and at College Confidential. It’s quite clear that those students getting in TO are otherwise hooked. Also Reddit.[/quote]

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