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Anonymous wrote:Students from all parts of the country love Wisconsin--it is very similar in terms of school spirit to UNC.

But size and weather differ, and those two factors can be important to applicants. My DC at UVA looked closely at Chapel Hill and Madison. I liked UNC the best—less pretense, more normal (less competitive) vibe than DMV-dominated UVA. It was clear Madison, while a terrific school, is not comparable to UNC because of its size. Finding a schools in the 18,000 student range is VERY difficult. There aren’t many, if that’s the size your DC is looking for. For that matter, Austin is not comparable either. Too big. Too Texas. Very different from UNC but a great school.

I hear UVA’s rhetoric about test optional but not sure I believe it when it comes to DMV kids. And they won’t supply the data to evaluate if they are telling the truth. My impression is that they are using TO to round out within-VA geographic diversity and tap under-served groups. Maybe a handful of UMC DMV mids with something very special about them. But as a rule, it seems that they still want those high test scores from DMV applicants, and they need to be pretty stratospheric for the OOS (unhooked) applicants.

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Anonymous wrote:Her gpa at end of senior year won’t matter. If you do ED they’re looking at grades end of junior year plus courses in progress. Similar with RD but first semester senior grades are complete.

Yes, but when you view the median GPA at SHEV or Naviance, those are senior year grades. As a prior poster pointed out, your GPA jumps a lot junior and senior year if you take a lot of APs. Also Naviance matters more than anything for the individual student. The average admitted GPA for my kid’s HS, for example, is 4.1 because it’s a private school without a lot of AP options.

But for Langley it’s a 4.47. You have to compare against the top gpa possible at your high schoolZ the college counselor should help. Naviance will help. OP also needs to ask high school counselor if they will be checking the most rigorous box. That’s a necessity for UVA and OP’s kid should be in the top 6 percent of their class. Also OP’s daughter shouldn’t ho TO unless hooked. TO only favors the hooked

Yes, that’s why I said you need to look at Naviance. GPA varies from school to school. Also Dean J says repeatedly to stop looking at the GPA in isolation because, as you noted, it’s the rigor on the courses that matter.

TO does not favor those who are hooked. UVA is very explicit, verbally in their admission seminars, and in writing, that students do not need to submit scores, and tells kids not to take the SAT or submit a score if they do not want to do so. If schools lie about this they will end up being sued and they know that (per an actual counsel at UVA). Plus the existence of TO is leading to inflated SAT stats. If you want to see the real SAT averages for a school, go back to 2019. That’s what they will look like if school removed the test optional option.

If UVA did not want applicants to take the SAT, then they would be test blind. They are not. The common data set says such scores are considered. So if other factors (grades, ECs, etc.) being more or less equal (and no hooks), the applicant with a good SAT score will beat out the TO applicant.

Anonymous wrote:Students from all parts of the country love Wisconsin--it is very similar in terms of school spirit to UNC.

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Anonymous wrote:Wisconsin Madison

Too Cold.

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Anonymous wrote:Wisconsin Madison

Too Cold.

The kids don’t seem to care.

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Anonymous wrote:Wisconsin Madison

Too Cold.

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Anonymous wrote:Clemson

Then your state flagship is UofSC not Clemson, what is wrong with those schools?

Anonymous wrote:Is UNC’s admit rate higher for in-state applicants?? I had no idea. Do they publish this? I can’t find it online.

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Anonymous wrote:Her gpa at end of senior year won’t matter. If you do ED they’re looking at grades end of junior year plus courses in progress. Similar with RD but first semester senior grades are complete.

Yes, but when you view the median GPA at SHEV or Naviance, those are senior year grades. As a prior poster pointed out, your GPA jumps a lot junior and senior year if you take a lot of APs. Also Naviance matters more than anything for the individual student. The average admitted GPA for my kid’s HS, for example, is 4.1 because it’s a private school without a lot of AP options.

But for Langley it’s a 4.47. You have to compare against the top gpa possible at your high schoolZ the college counselor should help. Naviance will help. OP also needs to ask high school counselor if they will be checking the most rigorous box. That’s a necessity for UVA and OP’s kid should be in the top 6 percent of their class. Also OP’s daughter shouldn’t ho TO unless hooked. TO only favors the hooked

Yes, that’s why I said you need to look at Naviance. GPA varies from school to school. Also Dean J says repeatedly to stop looking at the GPA in isolation because, as you noted, it’s the rigor on the courses that matter.

TO does not favor those who are hooked. UVA is very explicit, verbally in their admission seminars, and in writing, that students do not need to submit scores, and tells kids not to take the SAT or submit a score if they do not want to do so. If schools lie about this they will end up being sued and they know that (per an actual counsel at UVA). Plus the existence of TO is leading to inflated SAT stats. If you want to see the real SAT averages for a school, go back to 2019. That’s what they will look like if school removed the test optional option.