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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I live surrounded by many of these types of people, who have very organized and lovely lives. And it is on the surface of it, lovely. But it is also a great deal of work. It comes more effortlessly to some but it is still a lot of work. Most of them will have great careers that also involve very long hours. I am certainly not judging it because they are my neighbors and friends but they wanted a certain lifestyle and they worked for it. They put a lot of effort into their houses and their public perception. That most of them were athletes in high school and college doesn't surprise me at all because athletics teaches you discipline and hard work and endurance.

If you don't have the energy or endurance, that's fine. There's no moral judgment here. Just different kinds of people. [b]There's too much judging and resentment these days and willful belief that somehow fortunate people have everything handed to them on a platter. The reality is that most of them worked very hard for it and made very conscious decisions.[/b] [/quote]

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Data on population level does not bear this out. There is a pattern to how wealthy, good-looking, athletic kids are treated vs poor unattractive non athletic  kids are treated in regards to the decisions they make, the outcomes, etc. I dont disregard that they work hard BUT when you start at level 10 getting to level 20 with hard work is easy than getting to level 20 from level 1. There are also not a lot of people who achieve going from level 1 to level 20. Almost every person we talk about who is self-made is NOT self-made. They had wealthy parents, highly educated parents, private school, etc. Did they work- yes. Did they work harder than everyone else- not really. [/quote]

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