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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think ND is a great school academically but my perception, as someone who didn’t go there but does hiring in the DC area and sees a lot of ND grads, is that the school is somewhat insular and there is a degree of immaturity among their graduates as a result. I do think the combination of being in a remote area, having a heavily Catholic student body, and drawing from a somewhat narrow applicant pool, may have a negative impact on this aspect of development. My overall impression is not negative at all, but there have been a number of ND grads that I didn’t feel comfortable hiring right out of school because they seemed unusually immature compared to other applicants. I often got the impression of very accomplished high schoolers, where you think “wow you are going to be great as soon as you get some real life experience!” Of course, there is some of that with all recent college grads but it feels more pronounced with ND grads. Things like study abroad and summer internships don’t seem to matter either… it’s still the impression I get. For that reason I’d be unlikely to encourage my child to go there. I think college should be at least partially about broadening your horizons and ND seems more like a comfortable, familiar environment for a pretty specific type of student. Very good school though.[/quote] Our organization actually seeks out ND grads (along with other top universities). We find the ND grads to be not only brilliant, but the easiest to work with..the least pompous. Just a personal experience.[/quote] Brilliant? I might have bought this but your word choice gives you away. ND is a good school with smart students, but no one but an ND booster (either alum, or parent of student, or both) would say ND grads are “brilliant” and not pompous. Some are definitely pompous, for instance. True if any name brand school, though.[/quote] There are very few colleges in the United States where entering freshmen have better qualifications and test scores than Notre Dame. You don't have to be a Notre Dame booster to know that, but you'd have to be a real Notre Dame hater to deny it. [/quote] I guess that depends on your definition of "few." There are dozens of colleges that are more academically selective than Notre Dame.[/quote] “Dozens” you say? Ok, list them. [/quote] DP but I'm going to try to play this game! Note: I'm not a ND basher, I really don't have a strong opinion about the school either way. Just a fun exercise because I'm bored. 1. Harvard 2. Yale 3. Princeton 4. Stanford 5. MIT 6. Caltech 7. Penn 8. Chicago 9. Northwestern 10. Columbia 11. Duke 12. Johns Hopkins 13. Cornell 14. Dartmouth 15. Brown 16. Rice 17. Vanderbilt 18. West Point 19. Annapolis 20. Williams 21. Amherst 22. Swarthmore 23. Pomona 24. Berkeley 25. Carnegie Mellon 26. WashU 27. Harvey Mudd[/quote] I’d say half the schools on your list are tougher admits by a small margin and the other half are even with or slightly less selective. You’re really splitting hairs after the top dozen or so. [/quote]
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