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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They are now saying early 2022. But it is pretty crappy of you to pin your hopes on little kids saving you instead of adults. [/quote]

As a parent of a child under 12, I'm not looking for him to "save me".  I am looking to protect him and save [i]him[/i] from the a$$hats who refuse to get vaccinated by choice.  Beyond that, I couldn't care less if they don't care enough to take care of themselves.[/quote]

I am so sick of the kids will be fiiiine crowd.  these people are not trumpers but liberal elitists who just want to get on with things. [/quote]
If this virus had the same effect on the population as a whole as it does on kids (i.e. few, if any, symptoms for the vast, vast majority), covid would’ve been in the news a few times and would then have been ignored. We wouldn’t have imposed any restrictions, and nobody would have spent money developing a vaccine.

So, given that covid doesn’t pose any meaningful risk to kids, what’s the point of vaccinating them? Is there any other vaccine that we give to a group that isn’t at risk from the disease in question?[/quote]

Here we go again. Hundreds of kids in the United States have died from COVID. A substantial percent of them were otherwise healthy. Many, many more are suffering from long-term side effects. While they are generally at less of a risk than adults, it is simply incorrect to say that they aren’t at a meaningful risk. [/quote]

NP. So the UK expert panel that said exactly that is wrong? Do you think they are lying to cover up a supply issue?[/quote]

I’m not aware of a UK panel opining on the hundreds of pediatric deaths from covid in the US. [/quote]

No, they are speaking about the risk to the average child. US and UK kids aren’t fundamentally different.[/quote]

But again, I wasn’t engaging in the risk-benefit calculation. I was just responding to the misleading argument that covid isn’t a meaningful risk to kids. It is:  hundreds of kids in the US have died from covid. Many of them were otherwise healthy. [/quote]

Then you have a meaningless concept of “meaningful risk”. Risk is by definition statistical, and for the average kid, the statistical risk of death or serious illness from Covid is extremely small, i.e. not meaningful. Obviously the harm was meaningful to those few hundred kids (kids as in under 18, the number for the under 12s is much smaller) who died, but that is different from “risk”.[/quote]

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