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Anonymous wrote:They are now saying early 2022. But it is pretty crappy of you to pin your hopes on little kids saving you instead of adults.

As a parent of a child under 12, I'm not looking for him to "save me". I am looking to protect him and save him from the a$$hats who refuse to get vaccinated by choice. Beyond that, I couldn't care less if they don't care enough to take care of themselves.

I am so sick of the kids will be fiiiine crowd. these people are not trumpers but liberal elitists who just want to get on with things.

If this virus had the same effect on the population as a whole as it does on kids (i.e. few, if any, symptoms for the vast, vast majority), covid would’ve been in the news a few times and would then have been ignored. We wouldn’t have imposed any restrictions, and nobody would have spent money developing a vaccine.

So, given that covid doesn’t pose any meaningful risk to kids, what’s the point of vaccinating them? Is there any other vaccine that we give to a group that isn’t at risk from the disease in question?

Here we go again. Hundreds of kids in the United States have died from COVID. A substantial percent of them were otherwise healthy. Many, many more are suffering from long-term side effects. While they are generally at less of a risk than adults, it is simply incorrect to say that they aren’t at a meaningful risk.

Most of this post is totally made up.

Yes, sadly 300 kids have died from Covid. But, very few of them were “otherwise healthy.” No, there’s no real evidence that kids are suffering from long term side effects.

There’s no evidence that COVID is a meaningful risk to kids.

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Anonymous wrote:They are now saying early 2022. But it is pretty crappy of you to pin your hopes on little kids saving you instead of adults.

As a parent of a child under 12, I'm not looking for him to "save me". I am looking to protect him and save him from the a$$hats who refuse to get vaccinated by choice. Beyond that, I couldn't care less if they don't care enough to take care of themselves.

I am so sick of the kids will be fiiiine crowd. these people are not trumpers but liberal elitists who just want to get on with things.

If this virus had the same effect on the population as a whole as it does on kids (i.e. few, if any, symptoms for the vast, vast majority), covid would’ve been in the news a few times and would then have been ignored. We wouldn’t have imposed any restrictions, and nobody would have spent money developing a vaccine.

So, given that covid doesn’t pose any meaningful risk to kids, what’s the point of vaccinating them? Is there any other vaccine that we give to a group that isn’t at risk from the disease in question?

Here we go again. Hundreds of kids in the United States have died from COVID. A substantial percent of them were otherwise healthy. Many, many more are suffering from long-term side effects. While they are generally at less of a risk than adults, it is simply incorrect to say that they aren’t at a meaningful risk.

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Anonymous wrote:They are now saying early 2022. But it is pretty crappy of you to pin your hopes on little kids saving you instead of adults.

As a parent of a child under 12, I'm not looking for him to "save me". I am looking to protect him and save him from the a$$hats who refuse to get vaccinated by choice. Beyond that, I couldn't care less if they don't care enough to take care of themselves.

I am so sick of the kids will be fiiiine crowd. these people are not trumpers but liberal elitists who just want to get on with things.

If this virus had the same effect on the population as a whole as it does on kids (i.e. few, if any, symptoms for the vast, vast majority), covid would’ve been in the news a few times and would then have been ignored. We wouldn’t have imposed any restrictions, and nobody would have spent money developing a vaccine.

So, given that covid doesn’t pose any meaningful risk to kids, what’s the point of vaccinating them? Is there any other vaccine that we give to a group that isn’t at risk from the disease in question?

Here we go again. Hundreds of kids in the United States have died from COVID. A substantial percent of them were otherwise healthy. Many, many more are suffering from long-term side effects. While they are generally at less of a risk than adults, it is simply incorrect to say that they aren’t at a meaningful risk.

NP. So the UK expert panel that said exactly that is wrong? Do you think they are lying to cover up a supply issue?

I’m not aware of a UK panel opining on the hundreds of pediatric deaths from covid in the US.

No, they are speaking about the risk to the average child. US and UK kids aren’t fundamentally different.

UK kids are generally healthier so there’s that.

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Anonymous wrote:They are now saying early 2022. But it is pretty crappy of you to pin your hopes on little kids saving you instead of adults.

As a parent of a child under 12, I'm not looking for him to "save me". I am looking to protect him and save him from the a$$hats who refuse to get vaccinated by choice. Beyond that, I couldn't care less if they don't care enough to take care of themselves.

I am so sick of the kids will be fiiiine crowd. these people are not trumpers but liberal elitists who just want to get on with things.

If this virus had the same effect on the population as a whole as it does on kids (i.e. few, if any, symptoms for the vast, vast majority), covid would’ve been in the news a few times and would then have been ignored. We wouldn’t have imposed any restrictions, and nobody would have spent money developing a vaccine.

So, given that covid doesn’t pose any meaningful risk to kids, what’s the point of vaccinating them? Is there any other vaccine that we give to a group that isn’t at risk from the disease in question?

Here we go again. Hundreds of kids in the United States have died from COVID. A substantial percent of them were otherwise healthy. Many, many more are suffering from long-term side effects. While they are generally at less of a risk than adults, it is simply incorrect to say that they aren’t at a meaningful risk.

NP. So the UK expert panel that said exactly that is wrong? Do you think they are lying to cover up a supply issue?

I’m not aware of a UK panel opining on the hundreds of pediatric deaths from covid in the US.

No, they are speaking about the risk to the average child. US and UK kids aren’t fundamentally different.

But again, I wasn’t engaging in the risk-benefit calculation. I was just responding to the misleading argument that covid isn’t a meaningful risk to kids. It is: hundreds of kids in the US have died from covid. Many of them were otherwise healthy.

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Anonymous wrote:They are now saying early 2022. But it is pretty crappy of you to pin your hopes on little kids saving you instead of adults.

As a parent of a child under 12, I'm not looking for him to "save me". I am looking to protect him and save him from the a$$hats who refuse to get vaccinated by choice. Beyond that, I couldn't care less if they don't care enough to take care of themselves.

I am so sick of the kids will be fiiiine crowd. these people are not trumpers but liberal elitists who just want to get on with things.

If this virus had the same effect on the population as a whole as it does on kids (i.e. few, if any, symptoms for the vast, vast majority), covid would’ve been in the news a few times and would then have been ignored. We wouldn’t have imposed any restrictions, and nobody would have spent money developing a vaccine.

So, given that covid doesn’t pose any meaningful risk to kids, what’s the point of vaccinating them? Is there any other vaccine that we give to a group that isn’t at risk from the disease in question?

Here we go again. Hundreds of kids in the United States have died from COVID. A substantial percent of them were otherwise healthy. Many, many more are suffering from long-term side effects. While they are generally at less of a risk than adults, it is simply incorrect to say that they aren’t at a meaningful risk.

NP. So the UK expert panel that said exactly that is wrong? Do you think they are lying to cover up a supply issue?

I’m not aware of a UK panel opining on the hundreds of pediatric deaths from covid in the US.

No, they are speaking about the risk to the average child. US and UK kids aren’t fundamentally different.

Anonymous wrote:According to this article, Pfizer expects to request EUA status for kids 5-11 in September or October: https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210702/pfizer-seeking-vaccination-approval-for-ages-5-to-11-years-old-by-fall
No guess as to how long it would take FDA to make a decision.

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Anonymous wrote:They are now saying early 2022. But it is pretty crappy of you to pin your hopes on little kids saving you instead of adults.

As a parent of a child under 12, I'm not looking for him to "save me". I am looking to protect him and save him from the a$$hats who refuse to get vaccinated by choice. Beyond that, I couldn't care less if they don't care enough to take care of themselves.

I am so sick of the kids will be fiiiine crowd. these people are not trumpers but liberal elitists who just want to get on with things.

If this virus had the same effect on the population as a whole as it does on kids (i.e. few, if any, symptoms for the vast, vast majority), covid would’ve been in the news a few times and would then have been ignored. We wouldn’t have imposed any restrictions, and nobody would have spent money developing a vaccine.

So, given that covid doesn’t pose any meaningful risk to kids, what’s the point of vaccinating them? Is there any other vaccine that we give to a group that isn’t at risk from the disease in question?

Here we go again. Hundreds of kids in the United States have died from COVID. A substantial percent of them were otherwise healthy. Many, many more are suffering from long-term side effects. While they are generally at less of a risk than adults, it is simply incorrect to say that they aren’t at a meaningful risk.

NP. So the UK expert panel that said exactly that is wrong? Do you think they are lying to cover up a supply issue?

I’m not aware of a UK panel opining on the hundreds of pediatric deaths from covid in the US.

No, they are speaking about the risk to the average child. US and UK kids aren’t fundamentally different.

But again, I wasn’t engaging in the risk-benefit calculation. I was just responding to the misleading argument that covid isn’t a meaningful risk to kids. It is: hundreds of kids in the US have died from covid. Many of them were otherwise healthy.

Then you have a meaningless concept of “meaningful risk”. Risk is by definition statistical, and for the average kid, the statistical risk of death or serious illness from Covid is extremely small, i.e. not meaningful. Obviously the harm was meaningful to those few hundred kids (kids as in under 18, the number for the under 12s is much smaller) who died, but that is different from “risk”.

DP. And the risk from the vaccine, if that's the comparison you're thinking of, is virtually microscopic.

The UK panel said the risk benefit analysis is unclear due to our lack of data on the vaccine. You can make up your own opinion, but there is no expert consensus on this.

I will vaccinate my kids by the way, so you are not talking to an anti-vaxxer. But I will do it for social reasons more than anything else.

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Anonymous wrote:They are now saying early 2022. But it is pretty crappy of you to pin your hopes on little kids saving you instead of adults.

As a parent of a child under 12, I'm not looking for him to "save me". I am looking to protect him and save him from the a$$hats who refuse to get vaccinated by choice. Beyond that, I couldn't care less if they don't care enough to take care of themselves.

I am so sick of the kids will be fiiiine crowd. these people are not trumpers but liberal elitists who just want to get on with things.

If this virus had the same effect on the population as a whole as it does on kids (i.e. few, if any, symptoms for the vast, vast majority), covid would’ve been in the news a few times and would then have been ignored. We wouldn’t have imposed any restrictions, and nobody would have spent money developing a vaccine.

So, given that covid doesn’t pose any meaningful risk to kids, what’s the point of vaccinating them? Is there any other vaccine that we give to a group that isn’t at risk from the disease in question?

Here we go again. Hundreds of kids in the United States have died from COVID. A substantial percent of them were otherwise healthy. Many, many more are suffering from long-term side effects. While they are generally at less of a risk than adults, it is simply incorrect to say that they aren’t at a meaningful risk.

NP. So the UK expert panel that said exactly that is wrong? Do you think they are lying to cover up a supply issue?

I’m not aware of a UK panel opining on the hundreds of pediatric deaths from covid in the US.

No, they are speaking about the risk to the average child. US and UK kids aren’t fundamentally different.

But again, I wasn’t engaging in the risk-benefit calculation. I was just responding to the misleading argument that covid isn’t a meaningful risk to kids. It is: hundreds of kids in the US have died from covid. Many of them were otherwise healthy.

Then you have a meaningless concept of “meaningful risk”. Risk is by definition statistical, and for the average kid, the statistical risk of death or serious illness from Covid is extremely small, i.e. not meaningful. Obviously the harm was meaningful to those few hundred kids (kids as in under 18, the number for the under 12s is much smaller) who died, but that is different from “risk”.

DP. And the risk from the vaccine, if that's the comparison you're thinking of, is virtually microscopic.

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Anonymous wrote:They are now saying early 2022. But it is pretty crappy of you to pin your hopes on little kids saving you instead of adults.

As a parent of a child under 12, I'm not looking for him to "save me". I am looking to protect him and save him from the a$$hats who refuse to get vaccinated by choice. Beyond that, I couldn't care less if they don't care enough to take care of themselves.

I am so sick of the kids will be fiiiine crowd. these people are not trumpers but liberal elitists who just want to get on with things.

If this virus had the same effect on the population as a whole as it does on kids (i.e. few, if any, symptoms for the vast, vast majority), covid would’ve been in the news a few times and would then have been ignored. We wouldn’t have imposed any restrictions, and nobody would have spent money developing a vaccine.

So, given that covid doesn’t pose any meaningful risk to kids, what’s the point of vaccinating them? Is there any other vaccine that we give to a group that isn’t at risk from the disease in question?

Here we go again. Hundreds of kids in the United States have died from COVID. A substantial percent of them were otherwise healthy. Many, many more are suffering from long-term side effects. While they are generally at less of a risk than adults, it is simply incorrect to say that they aren’t at a meaningful risk.

NP. So the UK expert panel that said exactly that is wrong? Do you think they are lying to cover up a supply issue?

I’m not aware of a UK panel opining on the hundreds of pediatric deaths from covid in the US.

No, they are speaking about the risk to the average child. US and UK kids aren’t fundamentally different.

But again, I wasn’t engaging in the risk-benefit calculation. I was just responding to the misleading argument that covid isn’t a meaningful risk to kids. It is: hundreds of kids in the US have died from covid. Many of them were otherwise healthy.

Then you have a meaningless concept of “meaningful risk”. Risk is by definition statistical, and for the average kid, the statistical risk of death or serious illness from Covid is extremely small, i.e. not meaningful. Obviously the harm was meaningful to those few hundred kids (kids as in under 18, the number for the under 12s is much smaller) who died, but that is different from “risk”.

Actually, it is a leading cause of death among children. Per this article, it is one of the top ten causes of death among kids. https://www.wbrc.com/2021/05/23/covid-is-one-top-causes-death-children/ And per this analysis, it is not only a leading cause of death, but particularly tragic because young lives are cut short. https://www.wbrc.com/2021/05/23/covid-is-one-top-causes-death-children/

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/second-opinions/93055

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Anonymous wrote:They are now saying early 2022. But it is pretty crappy of you to pin your hopes on little kids saving you instead of adults.

As a parent of a child under 12, I'm not looking for him to "save me". I am looking to protect him and save him from the a$$hats who refuse to get vaccinated by choice. Beyond that, I couldn't care less if they don't care enough to take care of themselves.

I am so sick of the kids will be fiiiine crowd. these people are not trumpers but liberal elitists who just want to get on with things.

If this virus had the same effect on the population as a whole as it does on kids (i.e. few, if any, symptoms for the vast, vast majority), covid would’ve been in the news a few times and would then have been ignored. We wouldn’t have imposed any restrictions, and nobody would have spent money developing a vaccine.

So, given that covid doesn’t pose any meaningful risk to kids, what’s the point of vaccinating them? Is there any other vaccine that we give to a group that isn’t at risk from the disease in question?

Here we go again. Hundreds of kids in the United States have died from COVID. A substantial percent of them were otherwise healthy. Many, many more are suffering from long-term side effects. While they are generally at less of a risk than adults, it is simply incorrect to say that they aren’t at a meaningful risk.

NP. So the UK expert panel that said exactly that is wrong? Do you think they are lying to cover up a supply issue?

I’m not aware of a UK panel opining on the hundreds of pediatric deaths from covid in the US.

No, they are speaking about the risk to the average child. US and UK kids aren’t fundamentally different.

But again, I wasn’t engaging in the risk-benefit calculation. I was just responding to the misleading argument that covid isn’t a meaningful risk to kids. It is: hundreds of kids in the US have died from covid. Many of them were otherwise healthy.

Then you have a meaningless concept of “meaningful risk”. Risk is by definition statistical, and for the average kid, the statistical risk of death or serious illness from Covid is extremely small, i.e. not meaningful. Obviously the harm was meaningful to those few hundred kids (kids as in under 18, the number for the under 12s is much smaller) who died, but that is different from “risk”.

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Anonymous wrote:They are now saying early 2022. But it is pretty crappy of you to pin your hopes on little kids saving you instead of adults.

As a parent of a child under 12, I'm not looking for him to "save me". I am looking to protect him and save him from the a$$hats who refuse to get vaccinated by choice. Beyond that, I couldn't care less if they don't care enough to take care of themselves.

I am so sick of the kids will be fiiiine crowd. these people are not trumpers but liberal elitists who just want to get on with things.

If this virus had the same effect on the population as a whole as it does on kids (i.e. few, if any, symptoms for the vast, vast majority), covid would’ve been in the news a few times and would then have been ignored. We wouldn’t have imposed any restrictions, and nobody would have spent money developing a vaccine.

So, given that covid doesn’t pose any meaningful risk to kids, what’s the point of vaccinating them? Is there any other vaccine that we give to a group that isn’t at risk from the disease in question?

Here we go again. Hundreds of kids in the United States have died from COVID. A substantial percent of them were otherwise healthy. Many, many more are suffering from long-term side effects. While they are generally at less of a risk than adults, it is simply incorrect to say that they aren’t at a meaningful risk.

NP. So the UK expert panel that said exactly that is wrong? Do you think they are lying to cover up a supply issue?

I’m not aware of a UK panel opining on the hundreds of pediatric deaths from covid in the US.

No, they are speaking about the risk to the average child. US and UK kids aren’t fundamentally different.

But again, I wasn’t engaging in the risk-benefit calculation. I was just responding to the misleading argument that covid isn’t a meaningful risk to kids. It is: hundreds of kids in the US have died from covid. Many of them were otherwise healthy.

Then you have a meaningless concept of “meaningful risk”. Risk is by definition statistical, and for the average kid, the statistical risk of death or serious illness from Covid is extremely small, i.e. not meaningful. Obviously the harm was meaningful to those few hundred kids (kids as in under 18, the number for the under 12s is much smaller) who died, but that is different from “risk”.

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Anonymous wrote:They are now saying early 2022. But it is pretty crappy of you to pin your hopes on little kids saving you instead of adults.

As a parent of a child under 12, I'm not looking for him to "save me". I am looking to protect him and save him from the a$$hats who refuse to get vaccinated by choice. Beyond that, I couldn't care less if they don't care enough to take care of themselves.

I am so sick of the kids will be fiiiine crowd. these people are not trumpers but liberal elitists who just want to get on with things.

If this virus had the same effect on the population as a whole as it does on kids (i.e. few, if any, symptoms for the vast, vast majority), covid would’ve been in the news a few times and would then have been ignored. We wouldn’t have imposed any restrictions, and nobody would have spent money developing a vaccine.

So, given that covid doesn’t pose any meaningful risk to kids, what’s the point of vaccinating them? Is there any other vaccine that we give to a group that isn’t at risk from the disease in question?

Here we go again. Hundreds of kids in the United States have died from COVID. A substantial percent of them were otherwise healthy. Many, many more are suffering from long-term side effects. While they are generally at less of a risk than adults, it is simply incorrect to say that they aren’t at a meaningful risk.

NP. So the UK expert panel that said exactly that is wrong? Do you think they are lying to cover up a supply issue?

I’m not aware of a UK panel opining on the hundreds of pediatric deaths from covid in the US.

No, they are speaking about the risk to the average child. US and UK kids aren’t fundamentally different.

But again, I wasn’t engaging in the risk-benefit calculation. I was just responding to the misleading argument that covid isn’t a meaningful risk to kids. It is: hundreds of kids in the US have died from covid. Many of them were otherwise healthy.

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Anonymous wrote:They are now saying early 2022. But it is pretty crappy of you to pin your hopes on little kids saving you instead of adults.

As a parent of a child under 12, I'm not looking for him to "save me". I am looking to protect him and save him from the a$$hats who refuse to get vaccinated by choice. Beyond that, I couldn't care less if they don't care enough to take care of themselves.

I am so sick of the kids will be fiiiine crowd. these people are not trumpers but liberal elitists who just want to get on with things.

If this virus had the same effect on the population as a whole as it does on kids (i.e. few, if any, symptoms for the vast, vast majority), covid would’ve been in the news a few times and would then have been ignored. We wouldn’t have imposed any restrictions, and nobody would have spent money developing a vaccine.

So, given that covid doesn’t pose any meaningful risk to kids, what’s the point of vaccinating them? Is there any other vaccine that we give to a group that isn’t at risk from the disease in question?

Here we go again. Hundreds of kids in the United States have died from COVID. A substantial percent of them were otherwise healthy. Many, many more are suffering from long-term side effects. While they are generally at less of a risk than adults, it is simply incorrect to say that they aren’t at a meaningful risk.

NP. So the UK expert panel that said exactly that is wrong? Do you think they are lying to cover up a supply issue?

I’m not aware of a UK panel opining on the hundreds of pediatric deaths from covid in the US.

No, they are speaking about the risk to the average child. US and UK kids aren’t fundamentally different.

But again, I wasn’t engaging in the risk-benefit calculation. I was just responding to the misleading argument that covid isn’t a meaningful risk to kids. It is: hundreds of kids in the US have died from covid. Many of them were otherwise healthy.

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Anonymous wrote:They are now saying early 2022. But it is pretty crappy of you to pin your hopes on little kids saving you instead of adults.

As a parent of a child under 12, I'm not looking for him to "save me". I am looking to protect him and save him from the a$$hats who refuse to get vaccinated by choice. Beyond that, I couldn't care less if they don't care enough to take care of themselves.

I am so sick of the kids will be fiiiine crowd. these people are not trumpers but liberal elitists who just want to get on with things.

If this virus had the same effect on the population as a whole as it does on kids (i.e. few, if any, symptoms for the vast, vast majority), covid would’ve been in the news a few times and would then have been ignored. We wouldn’t have imposed any restrictions, and nobody would have spent money developing a vaccine.

So, given that covid doesn’t pose any meaningful risk to kids, what’s the point of vaccinating them? Is there any other vaccine that we give to a group that isn’t at risk from the disease in question?

Here we go again. Hundreds of kids in the United States have died from COVID. A substantial percent of them were otherwise healthy. Many, many more are suffering from long-term side effects. While they are generally at less of a risk than adults, it is simply incorrect to say that they aren’t at a meaningful risk.

NP. So the UK expert panel that said exactly that is wrong? Do you think they are lying to cover up a supply issue?

I’m not aware of a UK panel opining on the hundreds of pediatric deaths from covid in the US.

No, they are speaking about the risk to the average child. US and UK kids aren’t fundamentally different.