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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I would conservatively estimate that probably 75% of AA people over 50 years old lack any form of govt ID at all. It just wasn’t done before the 70’s. And they’ve grown up and lived their whole lives without ever driving or traveling, or being able to get a job. You people live very sheltered lives, and have no idea what life is like in the AA community. [/quote]

You must be kidding.
Of the over 50 African American crowd I know, have drivers licenses, a few with passports. Yes, there are the homeless and people who have been institutionalized and people who just can't get their $h!t together, but they are not 75%. Even among my southern relatives (AfAm side) they have drivers licenses and some have their military IDs.[/quote]

You are clueless. There are lots of people who don't have visas and do not have up to date licenses. My mother and the siblings all had a hard time post 9/11 as they had to get their ids updated and none of them had birth certificates. None were born in a hospital. [/quote]

My mom was born in the 1940s, in rural North Carolina, in a sharecropper's cabin, and she has as birth certificate as well as her siblings. Grandma was afraid of hospitals.
I'm Black, also born in the South, but in a hospital in the 1970s. I a have a birth certificate.
Any argument to say that Black people are less capable than whites is racist. And the idea that we can't get IDs because we are 'less than' and need to helped or excused by a bunch of do good saviors is disgusting. I am your equal.

Now that I got that off my chest, I will acknowledge some problems with our ID system. We had to bring my MIL up from out of state and she was semi-homeless due to another relative's abuse and her own growing dementia. It was a PITA to try to get her an ID from Maryland. Supposedly there were exceptions for people her age (over 70) for a non-driver's ID. But when DH carted her over to the DMV, they demanded all sorts of proof, and it didn't help she married again to a guy who had died. We needed her marriage certificate from her 2nd marriage but she couldn't remember where she married him, dementia, so we had to spend time hunting all the possible counties she could have married the lout. She died before we could cobble up all the proof of ID. And yes, we needed IDs for certain services, but went without or coasted on the good graces of people who normally worked with the aged and were fine with a SS card and her Medicare/ health insurance card.

Also I thought the question was people having AN ID as opposed to A VALID UP TO DATE ID. My mother in law had an ID. It wasn't up to date. It had her old address and not her MD address. But it was an ID, issued by a state government. [/quote]

Oh you didn't know we are supposed to be idiots who can't manage the basics of life?

It's crazy watching people twist themselves into pretzels over this issue.  Half my family served in the military and we all were born here (the last of my relatives to be born at home and have his birth recorded later died last year), enrolled in schools and rent/own houses but we  can't figure out id?  No.  [/quote]

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