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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]None of this hysteria makes any sense to me. Here's a link to the data from universities. 70,000 students tested positive. Only 3 had to go to hospital. Zero died. https://rationalground.com/covid-19-on-campus-october-update/ [/quote] The kid at App State family might disagree but spin it as you wish https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/30/us/app-state-student-covid-19-death-trnd/index.html [/quote] No spin is required. The point remains that people have lost any sense of risks, benefits, and balance in the whole debate. Is one death sufficient to close down live schooling for hundreds of thousands of kids? 100? 1000? Does anybody want to try to answer any of these questions or are we going to sigh and wail and continue to say that no deaths are acceptable? Honestly, I don't get this. We've dealt with these issues for generations and have moved on, but this one seems having trouble doing so. I suspect if more of us could not WFH, attitudes would shift in a hurry, especially in this area. For every death, and they are all tragic, there are dozens of people whose physical and mental health has declined appreciably, and who will have lost their jobs, businesses, lives and families because we cannot make appropriate risk-benefit assessments and take measured actions. Yes, mismanaging the response is a big part of the problem. But so is the inability to balance risks and benefits relating to specific activities and people. A more discriminating and geographically targeted response was appropriate early on, along with very clear and transparent expectations about what flattening the curve means. Nobody in their right mind thinks you can beat a virus with a lockdown when it continues to circulate throughout the world and can and will come right through our large borders. Something else is needed, like sanity and balance, and it is missing from all sides of this debate.[/quote] Yes. 1. Most estimates suggest that the lockdowns and associated economic damage will result in 10 - 100x more life years lost than the virus. And this ignores all the other suffering that has resulted and will result. 2. An ever growing number of scientists and medical professionals are speaking out against the absurd reaction to a relatively mild respiratory disease of the type which occurs every ten or twenty years. I'm not a fan of "letting the experts decide" because that is a well known logical fallacy and not science - but I mention this only because so many people arguing for the lockdowns claim that experts are in favor of them. They aren't. Many of the world's top epidemiologists from places like Harvard, Stanford and Oxford are attempting to speak out. I say attempting because they are unable to get their message heard in the media and are being actively censored in many cases.[/quote] “Relatively mild respiratory disease“. LOL. Over 1 million people in the world died from COVID and you called it mild? But in any case, there are countless threads with countless agreements and counter-arguments about COVID so let’s not destroy this thread too. Hence, let’s get back to the purpose of this thread which is reporting COVID cases with the DMV area soccer clubs. [/quote]
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