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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The [i]he’s electable[/i] meme is a narrative based on a fallacy. It’s not true guys.

Let me be very clear about this: I adore Joe Biden. I think Joe Biden is a truly gifted, special person. He’s a national treasure with a real talent for comforting and relating to people.

That said, he is way past his prime, and it’s showing. He’s not up to it, guys, and you know it. Anyone with eyes and ears can tell.

Maybe the bigger issue is, as an establishment guy with a very long—and controversial—political history, he will not inspire people to vote for him. A bunch of older poll respondents say they’ll vote for him. That’s great, but young people (black, white, whomever) will not come out for this guy. Yes, even young black people will not come out for him.

Young people come out for candidates that excite them. That is not Joe Biden.

I’m against all octogenarians being president, frankly. I’m most worried about Joe, though, because people are believing this false narrative that he’s the most electable.

Just look at history, and you'll see that democrats win with young, fresh candidates that excite the electorate.

[i]By the way, Hillary Clinton was the most electable, too...[/i]

—A black woman who cares
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I agree 100%. I have no idea why the media and party establishment is pushing this narrative. Joe has run twice before and dropped out one other time before it began. He was a 1-2% candidate. He did not get any better since he last ran.[/quote]

Excellent point, which I failed to mention in my OP. Joe is a proven loser candidate.

I am so scared we’re going to make the same mistake again.[/quote]

Biden doesn't inspire anyone. Honestly I think Hillary can still beat him. His only argument is voters want to go back to 2008. Maybe. If people want to go back to 2008, it will be because of Obama, not him.[/quote]

I have yet to see a single soul say Biden excites or inspires them (like Obama, like Bill Clinton, etc). They always say, [i]He’s the most electable.”[/i]

It’s ridiculous. It’s a mistake.[/quote]

Both Obama and Bill Clinton are in that small group of elite leaders -- Harvard and Yale law school graduates, HLR editor/Rhodes scholar, charisma, inspiring and having won tough national races. Biden was at the bottom of his class from a TTT law school. He only won races from a tiny state and lost big in his own bid for president. And he is 78 and declining fast.[/quote]

^^Absolutely this.

I sincerely wish he would’ve never gotten into the race. I never wanted him to go out with a disappointing loss, but I hope he does at this point. He’ll never do it, but I’d love it so much if he backs out and throws his support behind a younger (younger than 70 years old) candidate.
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There's no one else. Or he probably would have already done that.[/quote]

Ridiculous take. Buttigieg is young, moderate, and brilliant. Even if not Buttigieg, we had some 25 candidates (20+ under 70 years old!) that Biden could get behind. He’s being selfish, and he’s exhibiting an embarrassing lack of self awareness.

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In 10 or 20 years, Buttigieg may be very interesting.

The rest? Meh.[/quote]

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