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At a certain point in life “ability” or “potential” becomes less important and “achievement” or “performance” reigns supreme. When you are looking for a job no one cares about your IQ score. They want credentials and evidence of a good work ethic. Colleges don’t care about Mensa. You can get a 160 on the NNAT and fail classes in high school. And it’s not “she’s just unengaged” or “too smart”. There is more to academic excellence than IQ.[b] By 9th grade gifted is as gifted does[/b]. [/quote]
+1  [b]One of the reasons ACT and SAT are accepted for things like Davidson is that a 7th grader who scores in the 98th percentile of college-bound high school seniors is extraordinary.[/b]  Incredibly high achievement at a very early age fits in the "gifted is as gifted does" category.  Who is more impressive: A 9th grader who is taking several advanced college classes, has won awards in some sort of prestigious competition, like state Mathcounts, and scored a 1400 SAT as an 8th grader, but only got a 130 NNAT, or the 9th grader who is taking honors classes in regular school, has no notable achievements, but got a 160 NNAT?[/quote]

[b]Ok and what about the numerous gifted kids who haven’t been exposed to the type of curriculum that would allow them to get a high score on the SAT in 7th grade[/b]. Yes, a 7th grader who scores well on the SAT is probably gifted, but they probably also have parents who are very diligent about providingthem with enrichment and top notch educational opportunities. Nor the same as having innate ability. [/quote]

[b]Well, that's why they accept IQ scores also. And there's evidence that high-end SAT achievement is fairly highly correlated with IQ, especially if taken at a young age. Cogats and NNats have poor norming at the high end and they are comparatively easy to prep.  [/b][/quote

But the SAT test academic content that is LEARNED.  Yes, I'm sure many gifted people do well on the SAT's but it's not designed for determining IQ.  And I'm sure there's way more prepping for the SAT going on than the Cogat. And iff SAT scores are so correlated with iq, what does that have to say about poor minority kids having much lower iq scores?  Are you really going to say that's due to lower iq?[/quote]

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