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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Stop the outrageous lies. See the MCPS rental fee link below:

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/cupf/Resources/Files/FeeChart-fields.pdf[/quote]

That's a link to CUPF, not to MCPS.  CUPF collects those fees and gives a small percentage of that money, if there is any, to MCPS.

Now go find the line item in the budget that shows how much of those imaginary rental fees were ever actually collected.  It's $40,000, not $4 million.[/quote]

That’s on MOCO County Council. Just like when you pay Federal Taxes. The Treasury (IRS) collects the money and Congress distributes to the various agencies.

And where did you get the $40K number from?  Let’s pretend your number is correct, then isn’t the $2.4M that MSI gave to MoCo huge awesome amount?

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No, it is not a huge awesome amount. It is a huge liability.  The money only paid to install the artificial turf fields. It does not pay for maintenance, removal or replacement.

Again, see the WJ, RM, Wootton high school artificial turf fields.  Installed and then abandoned.  Those fields must be maintained, removed and replaced out of the MCPS Operating Budget because the whole fantasy artificial turf plan failed.  Rentals did not materialize, rental income did not fund maintenance, removal or replacement.

Creating a liability for the MCPS Operating Budget is not awesome.  It is a continual drain of education funds to an artificial turf field when that money could be used to pay for teachers or give teachers raises.  MSI Soccer is making a choice for how the MCPS Operating Budget will be used. They want money to maintain, clean, remove and replace their field surface, classrooms be damned. [/quote]

I work in the athletic field biz.  Prior poster is correct.  Synthetic turf fields are marketed by the installers as no maintenance.  This is not true.  In general
synthetic turf fields come with higher costs than natural grass fields.  Synthetic turf fields have to be irrigated on hot days to cool the fields down enough to allow for play.  
Synthetic turf fields have to be regularly groomed to fluff up the infill to prevent hard zones that injure your children.  Synthetic turf fields have
to be cleaned regularly to get rid of debris.  We sell a magnetic boom that is towed around the field to pick up metal on the field:  hair pins, nails,
etc.  The older fields that have infill made from ground up radial tires have a lot of metal in the infill.  The synthetic turf fields have to be disinfected
on a regular schedule to prevent MRSA.  Synthetic turf fields have to be regularly inspected and sewn to fix repairs.  My company regularly charges
$40,000 to remove paint that vandals have applied to synthetic turf fields.  Life span of synthetic turf fields is 10 years.  Many look rough at the
7 year point.  It is not that easy to find another $1 million dollars to replace a synthetic turf field.

Finally natural grass fields are way more eco friendly.  Paying a grounds guy to mow and fertilize is small change compared to the upkeep of
synthetic turf fields.[/quote]

Has anyone ever seen a synthetic field irrigated on a hot day? It is not a bad idea just never seen it actually done.[/quote]

Proper care of grass athletic fields require:
[b]
-fertilizers
-herbicides (rid of weeds)[/b]
-aeration 
-seeding
-watering (we had our first rain today after about 3 weeks of no rain)
-mowing
-painting of lines
-dethatching 
-removal of foreign objects (nails, screws, and other sharp objects)

As for irrigating the turf fields, our area never gets too hot to do that. But eferees and coaches are required stop games for water breaks on hot/humid days of about 87 or above degrees. [/quote]

Where do you live? 
Artificial turf was 150 degrees in Montgomery County yesterday.  [b]It was burning the feet of the players[/b].  Artificial turf fields are actually required to be closed when they get too hot for children to use them safely.  [/quote]

Last I checked, fertilizers and especially herbicide causes serious illness and cancer.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/13/723056453/california-jury-awards-2-billion-to-couple-in-roundup-weed-killer-cancer-trial
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You might have not played soccer before but people wear soccer cleats to play soccer. Cleats were invented in 1525.

Do you ever walked on a black asphalt parking lot in 90+ degree weather?  They get a whole lot hotter than turf fields. Do you ever hear anyone burning their feet from the hot asphalt ground?  No. Cause civilized people wear shoes. No one is allowed to play soccer with bare feet. [/quote]

Oh, wrong answer!  Artificial turf actually gets hotter than asphalt!  And it melts shoes!  Aren't you glad you are learning today?

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/08/its-so-hot-in-texas-turf-is-melting-cleats

But turf fields can get hot — dangerously hot. On a clear, sunny day, the surface temperature of turf can soar 60 degrees Fahrenheit above that of grass.
Researchers at Pennsylvania State University's Center for Sports Surface Research have logged turf surface temperatures as high as 175 degrees at Penn State. Others in Utah have recorded even higher temperatures.
"At these temperatures, water bottles will melt; shoes will melt," said Andrew McNitt, director of the Penn State center.

Heatstroke is one of the leading causes of sudden death in secondary school athletes. Last year's Annual Survey of Football Injury Research found 64 football players have died from heatstroke since 1995. Out of that number, 47 were high school athletes.

https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060748383

According to a study cited by the Las Vegas Sun in 2009, artificial turf above 122 degrees is considered “unsafe for sustained athletic use.” You won’t be surprised to hear that depending on the air temperature, turf can get as hot as 180 degrees. That number is not a misprint – 180 degrees in the most extreme conditions. If you’ve played on AG surfaces and encountered the searing pain caused by excessive heat, you will know it is something that can dramatically impact performance.

https://www.soccercleats101.com/2019/08/08/best-cleats-for-playing-on-hot-turf-pitches/

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