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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NP and the DCUM consensus on this thread is pretty much what's wrong with society and parenting today.

If the other parent had taken ANY responsibility or been the least bit apologetic without trying to blame the victim here, I think I (and OP) would be inclined to be more gracious about her precious little sons who can apparently do no wrong. But this is ridiculous.

How this *should* have gone:
OP to mom: I'm calling b/c I need you to come pick up Larlo and Lurlo. Unfortunately, while they were in Jack's room, they were carelessly fighting over a game controller, and the two of them ran into my study where they know they are not allowed to be, and while they were running around the study and fighting over the controller, they managed to knock over an entire glass bookshelf along with all of its contents. There is glass everywhere, and several precious items have been destroyed in the mess.

Mom of Larlo and Lurlo: Oh my goodness...I'm so sorry! I'll be there right away to pick the boys up.

Upon arrival--the mom sternly lectures her own sons Larlo and Lurlo in front of OP about respecting other people's home/property...demands apology. And waits while they sheepishly apologize to OP. Then turns to OP and says "Again, I'm so so sorry for the damage my boys have caused. We will be discussing what they can do to work off the money to repay you for the damage they caused. What can I do to help clean up the mess?"

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Instead, the reaction was (shrug) "Boys will be boys. Guess you should have locked the door!"

Unbelievable.[/quote]

Kids these days are screwed. Actual parenting is such a rare thing now. It's sad.[/quote]

Or, for all we know OP kid knocked it down and blamed the other kids.  She wasn't paying attention at all to the kids and had a glass shelf not secured to the wall with glass on it.  Anyone with common sense and younger kids should know to secure it to the wall.  OP needs to take a good chunk of the blame.  She took responsibility for those kids and let them behave like that.  You are right actual parenting is such a rare thing and OP is a good example.[/quote]

You are truly insufferable. 
At what point in your world are 11-year-old boys allowed to play video games in the sons room without the mom hovering over them to make sure they don't go into the room that they all knew they were not to go into? Is taking a bathroom break okay for her? Or do you have playdates where your 11-year-olds all hold hands with you and sit at the kitchen table while you make dinner??? You are literally insane.

At some point, you will need to hold your child responsible for his choices (yes...even the "childhood mistakes" that result in unintended, yet very undesirable outcomes--like knocking over glass shelving!) It may surprise you to learn this, but children even as "young" as 11 can be told "don't do this" (such as "don't go in this room" or "don't run in the house" or "don't fight with your brother") and be expected NOT to do it without constant supervision. And if they make a mistake and do those things anyway (and sometimes they will!), then if it causes damage, they also need to be held responsible for results of those actions. That is how you create responsibility and accountability in young humans.[/quote]

Our house is kid friendly where none of that would ever be an issue.  Big furniture is bolted to the wall.  Food/drink only in the dining room.  We don't have any restrictions on where they can go in the house and the basement has a camera to see what's going on.  Its easy enough to check every 30 minutes and listen in on what they are saying.  She should have been supervising better.  And, if they are just playing video games they would not be running around the house breaking things.  There is much more to this.[/quote]

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