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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is no "perfect" system, but there is one that is closest:

The one we have now.  Where colleges get to choose whoever they want for whatever reason they want.

No one is ever kept out of college for any reason other than economics.  There are more than enough good educations out there.

This false issue is only spouted by people who want to attend elite colleges but want to ignore the facts that make those colleges elite in the first place.

And we are not talking about the fraud that occurred, that is a separate issue and should be prosecuted.[/quote]

what we have now is idiotic. colleges are kid of the country club and the IQ. these two things need to be separate. either the colleges convert to country clubs and drop all pretense of intellectualism or they drop that crap and admit the best prepared (through real entrance exams not the crap we have). this is mix is not working - it’s tremendous waste of resources for everyone.[/quote]

It's not perfect but not idiotic.  If there were a perfect system it would be used.  Your concept of what is valuable to an institution may not be what theirs is.  Difference is it is their institution.  You don't have to like that but you also don't have to play.  95%+ of colleges let most kids in.

Do you think jobs should be given out that way also, strictly by an exam?

[i]That's[/i] idiotic, IMHO.[/quote]

nobody does it our way because it is stupid. smart people are trying to signal they are rich and mix with that crowd while duds have parents paying their way into schools so that they appear smarter than they are. it’s all a very elaborate signaling game that is incredibly costly for everyone while creating close to zero value as everyone already knows (or can easily ascertain) who is smart and who is rich and almost all real subject matter  knowledge  one can now gain through books and online for basically free.

as for what the institutions themselves want - who cares? this is about our children and our country. these hedge funds with a side business in certificates are shaping the lives of children and parents in a very destructive way.[/quote]

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