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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]PP you keep talking about the commercial and that is fair but do you not see the core problem that this commercial is tackling? I think, for example, that radical muslims absolutely are facing negativity because they have been violent and have hurt people. In the same vein, men are responsible for mass shootings, responsible for assault and harassment of women. Not all men of course, but this is a problem in how we are raising boys. A problem we need to tackle as a society. Maybe Gillette isn't getting 100% right but I think they're getting closer to it then we have gotten so far. [/quote]

No, no, no.

Muslims have not been violent and hurt people. [i]Some particular Muslims[/i] have, and [i]only they[/i] are responsible for their misdeeds, not the group as a whole.

"Men" are not responsible for mass shootings and assault and harassment of men. Only a tiny minority of particular men. This is not a problem in "how we are raising boys" because nobody is raising their son to be a violent criminal.

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The me too movement absolutely is showing that there is a problem in how we are raising boys. I was not saying that all muslims are terrorists I am simply saying that in the post you erased to respond to me you postulated that someone could talk this way about Muslims and be excoriated, but the reality is that because international terrorism is predominately committed by radical Muslims, they have faced a bit of a reckoning for the way they treat women in that culture and the way extreme Muslims have strong xenophobic tendencies. Because there are crazy radicals in every group but if they crazy radicals in YOUR group start going bananas, it probably points to a need to do some self examination. Muslim culture has been doing a lot of growing/evolving/examining in light of the terrorist problem.

Men need to do some growing/evolving/examining in light of systemic problems like absentee fathers and endemic sexual harassment. Of depression and suicide being much larger problems for men because it isn't considered 'acceptable' for men to be emotional and to show their feelings. This isn't an anti man sentiment. On the contrary it is a pro man pro masculinity sentiment. A path forward where men can absolutely BE MEN, be strong capable masculine men, but they can be that way without hurting themselves, other men or women. [/quote]

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