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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NYT article about how Columbia held a meeting with journalism students and faculty this week and warned them not to publish anything on Gaza, Ukraine, protests, or Khalil's arrest if they were not US citizens. And to scrub their social media.

[i]Students who were not U.S. citizens should avoid publishing work on Gaza, Ukraine and protests related to their former classmate’s arrest, urged Stuart Karle, a First Amendment lawyer and adjunct professor. With about two months to go before graduation, their academic accomplishments — or even their freedom — could be at risk if they attracted the ire of the Trump administration.

“If you have a social media page, make sure it is not filled with commentary on the Middle East,” he told the gathering in Pulitzer Hall. When a Palestinian student objected, the journalism school’s dean, Jelani Cobb, was more direct about the school’s inability to defend international students from federal prosecution.

“Nobody can protect you,” Mr. Cobb said. “These are dangerous times.”[/i]

What is going on in this country? Listen up when people say that this arrest is just a first step. If the administration can do this, they can do this for any cause or any viewpoint that they disagree with.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/12/nyregion/columbia-university-trump-protests.html?unlocked_article_code=1.3k4.Monp.zQRTWOJn-m98&smid=url-share[/quote]

Your problem is that[b] nobody believes [/b]these universities, professors, and students actually [b]support free speech or the first amendment. [/b]There is simply too much history of them fighting for [b]speech suppression[/b]. It’s quite rich for them to be claiming they now love the first amendment. [/quote]

Only MAGA believe this

Trump is suppressing free speech. Whenever you think about universities doesn't change that.

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I’m no Trump supporter. In fact, I am a strong supporter of Khalil being released on first amendment grounds, although I think the actual legal situation is not as straightforward as his supporters make it sound.

But what I am, above all[b], is a very strong supporter of free speech[/b]. And you know what that has meant? Over the past several years, it’s been the left that has been the primary attacker of free speech. I’m aligned with the leftists on this solely because of first amendment issues, even though I find Khalil himself extremely despicable. If you truly support the first amendment, you support the right of despicable people to say truly despicable things. That, however, is an alien concept to most of his loudest supporters.

This issue isn’t resonating with most voters, and I think the reason is that they see the hypocrisy. You can’t have a history of actively fighting for government speech limitations on social media while at the same time arguing passionately for Khalil’s release on first amendment grounds. It is blatantly hypocritical. [/quote]

Uh yeah sure I'll believe you  :roll:

But that's not the point.

He's a green card holder. He has rights to fue process and no green card holder in recent history has been detained in this manner with no charges of wrong doing and shuttled to different states so they can find a favorable judge.

That at least must remain of this country 
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I don’t care what you think. I know where my money and volunteering hours have gone and I’m confident I’ve done more for the cause of free speech in this country than you have.

And you can’t dispute my point, which is that the leftists who have newly discovered the existence of the first amendment after trashing it for years are not credible on this issue at this point.

Finally, [b]because you obviously lack basic reading comprehension[/b], I will repeat what I said: I want him freed on first amendment grounds, although I do not think the first amendment case here is as strong as his supporters believe it is (as someone who closely follows first amendment cases). But the leftist position on this is extremely weak given their years of attacks on the first amendment. [/quote]

Sure sure
Everyone who disagrees with you lacks "reading comprehension"

Do you live with a lot of illiterate people where this is a slur

He gets a trial. He's a green card holder and  better Secretary of States than little Marco would agree[/quote]

God you are slow. Yes, he should have a trial. I have now said three times that I want him freed and then to go through the normal process. Do I need to use smaller words?

I am delighted to see you discover the existence of the first amendment. That’s something leftists have been attacking for years, so it is nice to see the turnaround. Of course, I fully expect you to revert to attacking the first amendment once you get a chance. [/quote]

It will be delayed and he will stay in detention. However, his actions meet the criteria for deportation whether we agree or not. [/quote]

What criteria are you imagining? [/quote]

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