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Anonymous wrote:Free speech does not extend to promoting a terrorist organization.

He has never professed support for any terrorist organization. Blatant lies.

Untrue. It was proven he distributed pro-Hamas literature.

Exactly. He should have read the part on his green card papers about violating his status. He will be deported based on the Immigration and Nationality Act.

Oh yeah
This?

Under the Immigration and Nationality Act, the secretary of state has the right to revoke a green card or a visa for individuals who serve, or are adversarial to the foreign policy and the national security interests of the United States of America,"

Nazi moves at its finest
Who suffers next?

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Anonymous wrote:So many ignorant posters on here. Very happy with our current administration, and look forward to this guys swift deportation.

Haha
Sure you are MAGA
But is everyone else?

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Anonymous wrote:NYT article about how Columbia held a meeting with journalism students and faculty this week and warned them not to publish anything on Gaza, Ukraine, protests, or Khalil's arrest if they were not US citizens. And to scrub their social media.

Students who were not U.S. citizens should avoid publishing work on Gaza, Ukraine and protests related to their former classmate’s arrest, urged Stuart Karle, a First Amendment lawyer and adjunct professor. With about two months to go before graduation, their academic accomplishments — or even their freedom — could be at risk if they attracted the ire of the Trump administration.

“If you have a social media page, make sure it is not filled with commentary on the Middle East,” he told the gathering in Pulitzer Hall. When a Palestinian student objected, the journalism school’s dean, Jelani Cobb, was more direct about the school’s inability to defend international students from federal prosecution.

“Nobody can protect you,” Mr. Cobb said. “These are dangerous times.”

What is going on in this country? Listen up when people say that this arrest is just a first step. If the administration can do this, they can do this for any cause or any viewpoint that they disagree with.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/12/nyregion/columbia-university-trump-protests.html?unlocked_article_code=1.3k4.Monp.zQRTWOJn-m98&smid=url-share

Your problem is that nobody believes these universities, professors, and students actually support free speech or the first amendment. There is simply too much history of them fighting for speech suppression. It’s quite rich for them to be claiming they now love the first amendment.

Only MAGA believe this

Trump is suppressing free speech. Whenever you think about universities doesn't change that.

I’m no Trump supporter. In fact, I am a strong supporter of Khalil being released on first amendment grounds, although I think the actual legal situation is not as straightforward as his supporters make it sound.

But what I am, above all, is a very strong supporter of free speech. And you know what that has meant? Over the past several years, it’s been the left that has been the primary attacker of free speech. I’m aligned with the leftists on this solely because of first amendment issues, even though I find Khalil himself extremely despicable. If you truly support the first amendment, you support the right of despicable people to say truly despicable things. That, however, is an alien concept to most of his loudest supporters.

This issue isn’t resonating with most voters, and I think the reason is that they see the hypocrisy. You can’t have a history of actively fighting for government speech limitations on social media while at the same time arguing passionately for Khalil’s release on first amendment grounds. It is blatantly hypocritical.

Uh yeah sure I'll believe you :roll:

But that's not the point.

He's a green card holder. He has rights to fue process and no green card holder in recent history has been detained in this manner with no charges of wrong doing and shuttled to different states so they can find a favorable judge.

That at least must remain of this country

I don’t care what you think. I know where my money and volunteering hours have gone and I’m confident I’ve done more for the cause of free speech in this country than you have.

And you can’t dispute my point, which is that the leftists who have newly discovered the existence of the first amendment after trashing it for years are not credible on this issue at this point.

Finally, because you obviously lack basic reading comprehension, I will repeat what I said: I want him freed on first amendment grounds, although I do not think the first amendment case here is as strong as his supporters believe it is (as someone who closely follows first amendment cases). But the leftist position on this is extremely weak given their years of attacks on the first amendment.

Sure sure
Everyone who disagrees with you lacks "reading comprehension"

Do you live with a lot of illiterate people where this is a slur

He gets a trial. He's a green card holder and better Secretary of States than little Marco would agree

God you are slow. Yes, he should have a trial. I have now said three times that I want him freed and then to go through the normal process. Do I need to use smaller words?

I am delighted to see you discover the existence of the first amendment. That’s something leftists have been attacking for years, so it is nice to see the turnaround. Of course, I fully expect you to revert to attacking the first amendment once you get a chance.

It will be delayed and he will stay in detention. However, his actions meet the criteria for deportation whether we agree or not.

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Anonymous wrote:What does it mean to "support Hamas?"
Pledging allegience to Hamas would certainly count.
Transferring money to "Hamas Inc." via wire transfer would count.
Saying "I think Hamas' actions are justified" seems like a grey area.

Saying I want a cease fire and think Israel is committing genocide doesn't necessarily equate to "supporting Hamas." Did Hamas even want a cease-fire? Certainly on their terms, but that applies to any belligerent. For all we know he might hate Hamas and prefer the PLO or some other organization.

What evidence is there that the student "supported Hamas?" Merely asking for a ceasefire or asking Columbia to divest, would not seem to qualify as "supporting terrorism."

How 'bout this (which I posted earlier)?

Khalil acted as a negotiator and sometimes spokesperson for CUAD (Columbia University Apartheid Divest).

CUAD explicitly and officially issued a statement supporting Hamas and 10/7. As quoted in the Times:

“We support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance,” the group, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, said in its statement revoking the apology.

The group marked the anniversary of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by distributing a newspaper with a headline that used Hamas’s name for it: “One Year Since Al-Aqsa Flood, Revolution Until Victory,” it read, over a picture of Hamas fighters breaching the security fence to Israel. And the group posted an essay calling the attack a “moral, military and political victory” and quoting Ismail Haniyeh, the assassinated former political leader of Hamas.

“The Palestinian resistance is moving their struggle to a new phase of escalation and it is our duty to meet them there,” the group wrote on Oct. 7 on Telegram. “It is our duty to fight for our freedom!”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/nyregion/c...ian-group-hamas.html

Exactly. This guy wasn’t just walking around with a cardboard sign reading “Cease Fire.”

So, if a South African living in the US with a green card during the 80s supported Nelson Mandela and the ANC, should he have been deported back to South Africa? Mandela and the ANC were considered terrorists until 2008.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/us-government-considered-nelson-mandela-terrorist-until-2008-flna2d11708787

DP. Let's make the hypothetical match the current situation:

How 'bout if our imaginary South African issued a statement supporting murdering white South African civilians en masse and calling for the destruction of western civilization (as CUAD has done)?

Deportable?

Probably not if he's white.

Also, a lot of Irish Americans supported and even funded and provided arms to the IRA, a terrorist organization. They weren't deported either. Why? Cause they are white people.

You are comparing citizen rights to immigrant rights, which is not at all the same for good reason. And you are wrong. Sinn Fein leaders have been denied visas to the US due to their IRA ties, and denied green cards. It is our policy not to harbor violent extremists of any cause, and it’s a good one.
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/sinn-feins-ohare-denied-visa-for-trip-to-capitol-hill/26208677.html

Green card immigrants for have rights and protection.
Uh oh, Trump goofed and now needs you apologists to smoke-and-mirrors for him

Can you try that again, in English this time? We don't speak transliterated Arabic here.

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Anonymous wrote:Free speech does not extend to promoting a terrorist organization.

He has never professed support for any terrorist organization. Blatant lies.

Untrue. It was proven he distributed pro-Hamas literature.

Link to that proof?

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Anonymous wrote:He didn't break the law, but he violated immigration rules. He engaged in activities which are considered a threat to national security. What a dummy because if I recall you only need to be here for 3 years if married to a U.S. citizen to apply for citizenship.

This will not be a deterrent to Trump getting rid of someone. Soon

You'll see

NP, and no it won’t. I’m married to an immigrant, and without Trump, it’s a very difficult process to be in this country via green card. Hope his American wife enjoys Syria! lol

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Anonymous wrote:He didn't break the law, but he violated immigration rules. He engaged in activities which are considered a threat to national security. What a dummy because if I recall you only need to be here for 3 years if married to a U.S. citizen to apply for citizenship.

This will not be a deterrent to Trump getting rid of someone. Soon

You'll see

Anonymous wrote:He didn't break the law, but he violated immigration rules. He engaged in activities which are considered a threat to national security. What a dummy because if I recall you only need to be here for 3 years if married to a U.S. citizen to apply for citizenship.

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Anonymous wrote:NYT article about how Columbia held a meeting with journalism students and faculty this week and warned them not to publish anything on Gaza, Ukraine, protests, or Khalil's arrest if they were not US citizens. And to scrub their social media.

Students who were not U.S. citizens should avoid publishing work on Gaza, Ukraine and protests related to their former classmate’s arrest, urged Stuart Karle, a First Amendment lawyer and adjunct professor. With about two months to go before graduation, their academic accomplishments — or even their freedom — could be at risk if they attracted the ire of the Trump administration.

“If you have a social media page, make sure it is not filled with commentary on the Middle East,” he told the gathering in Pulitzer Hall. When a Palestinian student objected, the journalism school’s dean, Jelani Cobb, was more direct about the school’s inability to defend international students from federal prosecution.

“Nobody can protect you,” Mr. Cobb said. “These are dangerous times.”

What is going on in this country? Listen up when people say that this arrest is just a first step. If the administration can do this, they can do this for any cause or any viewpoint that they disagree with.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/12/nyregion/columbia-university-trump-protests.html?unlocked_article_code=1.3k4.Monp.zQRTWOJn-m98&smid=url-share

Your problem is that nobody believes these universities, professors, and students actually support free speech or the first amendment. There is simply too much history of them fighting for speech suppression. It’s quite rich for them to be claiming they now love the first amendment.

Only MAGA believe this

Trump is suppressing free speech. Whenever you think about universities doesn't change that.

I’m no Trump supporter. In fact, I am a strong supporter of Khalil being released on first amendment grounds, although I think the actual legal situation is not as straightforward as his supporters make it sound.

But what I am, above all, is a very strong supporter of free speech. And you know what that has meant? Over the past several years, it’s been the left that has been the primary attacker of free speech. I’m aligned with the leftists on this solely because of first amendment issues, even though I find Khalil himself extremely despicable. If you truly support the first amendment, you support the right of despicable people to say truly despicable things. That, however, is an alien concept to most of his loudest supporters.

This issue isn’t resonating with most voters, and I think the reason is that they see the hypocrisy. You can’t have a history of actively fighting for government speech limitations on social media while at the same time arguing passionately for Khalil’s release on first amendment grounds. It is blatantly hypocritical.

Uh yeah sure I'll believe you :roll:

But that's not the point.

He's a green card holder. He has rights to fue process and no green card holder in recent history has been detained in this manner with no charges of wrong doing and shuttled to different states so they can find a favorable judge.

That at least must remain of this country

I don’t care what you think. I know where my money and volunteering hours have gone and I’m confident I’ve done more for the cause of free speech in this country than you have.

And you can’t dispute my point, which is that the leftists who have newly discovered the existence of the first amendment after trashing it for years are not credible on this issue at this point.

Finally, because you obviously lack basic reading comprehension, I will repeat what I said: I want him freed on first amendment grounds, although I do not think the first amendment case here is as strong as his supporters believe it is (as someone who closely follows first amendment cases). But the leftist position on this is extremely weak given their years of attacks on the first amendment.

Sure sure
Everyone who disagrees with you lacks "reading comprehension"

Do you live with a lot of illiterate people where this is a slur

He gets a trial. He's a green card holder and better Secretary of States than little Marco would agree

God you are slow. Yes, he should have a trial. I have now said three times that I want him freed and then to go through the normal process. Do I need to use smaller words?

I am delighted to see you discover the existence of the first amendment. That’s something leftists have been attacking for years, so it is nice to see the turnaround. Of course, I fully expect you to revert to attacking the first amendment once you get a chance.

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Anonymous wrote:NYT article about how Columbia held a meeting with journalism students and faculty this week and warned them not to publish anything on Gaza, Ukraine, protests, or Khalil's arrest if they were not US citizens. And to scrub their social media.

Students who were not U.S. citizens should avoid publishing work on Gaza, Ukraine and protests related to their former classmate’s arrest, urged Stuart Karle, a First Amendment lawyer and adjunct professor. With about two months to go before graduation, their academic accomplishments — or even their freedom — could be at risk if they attracted the ire of the Trump administration.

“If you have a social media page, make sure it is not filled with commentary on the Middle East,” he told the gathering in Pulitzer Hall. When a Palestinian student objected, the journalism school’s dean, Jelani Cobb, was more direct about the school’s inability to defend international students from federal prosecution.

“Nobody can protect you,” Mr. Cobb said. “These are dangerous times.”

What is going on in this country? Listen up when people say that this arrest is just a first step. If the administration can do this, they can do this for any cause or any viewpoint that they disagree with.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/12/nyregion/columbia-university-trump-protests.html?unlocked_article_code=1.3k4.Monp.zQRTWOJn-m98&smid=url-share

Your problem is that nobody believes these universities, professors, and students actually support free speech or the first amendment. There is simply too much history of them fighting for speech suppression. It’s quite rich for them to be claiming they now love the first amendment.

Only MAGA believe this

Trump is suppressing free speech. Whenever you think about universities doesn't change that.

I’m no Trump supporter. In fact, I am a strong supporter of Khalil being released on first amendment grounds, although I think the actual legal situation is not as straightforward as his supporters make it sound.

But what I am, above all, is a very strong supporter of free speech. And you know what that has meant? Over the past several years, it’s been the left that has been the primary attacker of free speech. I’m aligned with the leftists on this solely because of first amendment issues, even though I find Khalil himself extremely despicable. If you truly support the first amendment, you support the right of despicable people to say truly despicable things. That, however, is an alien concept to most of his loudest supporters.

This issue isn’t resonating with most voters, and I think the reason is that they see the hypocrisy. You can’t have a history of actively fighting for government speech limitations on social media while at the same time arguing passionately for Khalil’s release on first amendment grounds. It is blatantly hypocritical.

Uh yeah sure I'll believe you :roll:

But that's not the point.

He's a green card holder. He has rights to fue process and no green card holder in recent history has been detained in this manner with no charges of wrong doing and shuttled to different states so they can find a favorable judge.

That at least must remain of this country

I don’t care what you think. I know where my money and volunteering hours have gone and I’m confident I’ve done more for the cause of free speech in this country than you have.

And you can’t dispute my point, which is that the leftists who have newly discovered the existence of the first amendment after trashing it for years are not credible on this issue at this point.

Finally, because you obviously lack basic reading comprehension, I will repeat what I said: I want him freed on first amendment grounds, although I do not think the first amendment case here is as strong as his supporters believe it is (as someone who closely follows first amendment cases). But the leftist position on this is extremely weak given their years of attacks on the first amendment.

Sure sure
Everyone who disagrees with you lacks "reading comprehension"

Do you live with a lot of illiterate people where this is a slur

He gets a trial. He's a green card holder and better Secretary of States than little Marco would agree

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Anonymous wrote:Overall, protesters need to fully understand what they are risking when they go to a rally where terrorist org literature, sentiments are present. It is a genuine security risk to our country.

People are taking video and sending it to the FBI, and Homeland security. Dummies!

Fight for everyone. No matter the cause.

This rule can't be allowed

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Anonymous wrote:So many ignorant posters on here. Very happy with our current administration, and look forward to this guys swift deportation.

They don't understand the process, or the specifications of having a green card lol.

He will get a hearing then Rubio will give him the boot after the delay. He should go to Syria, he'd do well over there lol.

Anonymous wrote:So many ignorant posters on here. Very happy with our current administration, and look forward to this guys swift deportation.

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Anonymous wrote:Overall, protesters need to fully understand what they are risking when they go to a rally where terrorist org literature, sentiments are present. It is a genuine security risk to our country.

People are taking video and sending it to the FBI, and Homeland security. Dummies!