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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The National Science Foundation ranks R&D (research & development) Expenditures for over 1,000 colleges and universities and medical centers each year. 
The most recent year that I have is for 2021: (UCal-Berkeley is ranked at #32 with $847 million in R&D expenditures).

R&D Expenditires for 2021:

1) Johns Hopkins University--$3.2 Billion
2) UC-San Francisco--$1.7 Billion
[b]3) U Michigan--$1.64 Billion[/b]
4) U Penn--$1.63 Billion
[b]5) U Washington-Seattle--$1.5 Billion[/b]

[b]6) UCLA--$1.46 Billion[/b]
7) UC-San Diego--$1.426 Billion
[b]8) U Wisconsin-Madison--$1.38 Billion[/b]
[b]9) Stanford--$1.275 Billion[/b]
10) Harvard--$1.254 Billion

11) Duke--$1.238 Billion
[b]12) Ohio State University--$1.236 Billion[/b]
13) UNC--$1.2 Billion
14) Cornell--$1.18 Billion
15) Yale--$1.165 Billion

16) Texas A&M--$1.147 Billion
[b]17) U Maryland--$1.142 Billion[/b]
18) U Pittsburgh--$1.135 Billion
19) U Texas Cancer Center--$1.125 Billion
20) Georgia Tech--$1.115 Billion

21) Columbia--$1.10 Billion
[b]22) U Minnesota--$1.073 Billion[/b]
23) NYU--$1.064 Billion
24) Vanderbilt--$1.019 Billion
25) WashUStL--$989 million
[b]26) Penn State Univ.--$971 million[/b]
27) U Florida--$960 million
28) USC--$956 million
29) MIT--$949 million
[b]30) Northwestern University--$913 million[/b]

31) Emory University--$853 million
[b]32) UCal-Berkeley--$847 million[/b]
33) Icahn Mount Sinai--$820 million
34) UC-Davis--$817 million
35) U Texas-Austin--$779 million

[b]41) Purdue--$680 million[/b][/quote]

These #s are basically junk as presented, especially given the combined medical centers that some have.[/quote]

Prove it--as the rest of the world and the National Science Foundation know otherwise.

This is why other posters claim that UCal-Berkeley kids are smug & insufferable. You make outlandish claims that you cannot support than make childish remarks denigrating the facts when presented to you.[/quote]
Cal doesn't have a med school or hospital/medical center though, does it? I don't have any Cal affiliation (I spent my time in CA across the Bay actually disliking Cal) but it does look like the med influence is a pretty big driver of a lot of the numbers you are citing. [/quote]

Does it matter ? The UCal-Berkeley supporter claimed that Cal is the best public research university in the US. I asked that poster for any supporting data or source. Silence. No response. So I did a quick google search & found the NSF data and presented it.[/quote]
I don't think you understand the UC system in Northern California though. The UC medical research, med school, and hospital for the Bay Area have been intentionally separated in the system, which is what UC-SF is (#2 on your list). They have dual degrees and a lot of cooperation with UCB but that hospital research and related $ goes to them. UCB and MIT are actually real standouts being on that list with no med schools or hospitals.  [/quote]

First you object to medical, now you want medical, yet you have presented no evidence whatsoever to support your assertion that "Cal is the best research university in the US."

Has UC-Berkeley objected to the National Science Foundation numbers and rankings ? No. End of story as it shows Berkeley to be #32, not #1, and about #17 among just public research universities, again not #1.

All you are doing is proving the other posters characterization of Cal folks. Please stop with the silliness. I am not your enemy. All I did was ask for a source of support for a ridiculous claim made without any basis.[/quote]

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