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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans. [/quote] If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education. [/quote] I just don’t understand why all these folks are getting negative about reparations? The time has come for reparations, and we are finally in a position where we will elect a president who will follow through on this previously broken promise. Why pump the brakes when we have the momentum? We are on the correct side of history, so let’s act like we are[/quote]Biden said he would study reparations, that's all. He's a good guy, but he won't stick his neck out that far for you. You haven't even convinced a majority of Democrats to support this. [/quote] So, more of the same? A major movement will come to a stop because white Democrats are too fragile to put their money where their mouth is? I’m not surprised[/quote] It was never a major movement. Only half of blacks support it, and only 20% of whites. It's not fragility to avoid something this unpopular, it's smart.[/quote] Smart for who? White Democrats, thanks for letting the world know how you truly feel :roll: [/quote] [b]Reparations are dumb as policy.[/b] I say that as a liberal democrat, and I'm the one who posted above that "If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism." [b]I and others would totally agree to pay higher taxes to reform public schools, for universal healthcare, and to subsidize college education. [/b]These policies, unlike reparations, would make lasting changes in the systemic causes of racism for this generation and future generations.[/quote] 1. Reparations are NOT dumb as policy. As someone said very early in this topic, the easiest way to improve someone’s situation is to give them money! 2. Instead of reparations, you prefer to raise taxes to provide more funds to public schools, healthcare, and colleges? These institutions all have racism baked into their structures, as they have been dominated by white folks. Seems that you would rather have money that should go for reparations instead go to a bunch of racist institutions dominated by whites. I’m sure they will appreciate the money. [/quote] 1) No. Giving away money doesn’t work. Giving someone a job and a purpose (and ability to earn money) does. 2) Agreed. Raising taxes doesn’t work either. If gov. gives $$$ for higher ed, etc. something else will have onto be cut. First, disband HUD. It started the racist housing policies in the first place (under FDR) and is now run by a surgeon. WTF? Take all that funding and start a jobs and higher ed program for blacks. All jobs and education have to be technology, science or engineering related. 50 year program. Then let nature take its course. Second, all college application acceptance decisions can no longer consider a person’s name, race, address, financial situation, or high school. Just academics, extra-curriculars, class rank, test scores (up to school), age, work exp., and essay. If accepted, blacks can apply to federal program for financial grant program which also guarantees a job (under prior explained program) if certain gpa and degree achieved. Non-blacks not eligible for this. Applicants must prove they are AA US born citizens whose prior three generations did not immigrate to the US. [/quote] Those all sound like great programs to support a comprehensive reparations program. [/quote]
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