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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Everyone knows the reason we have this problem is because Democrats are pro-mass immigration and don’t want tough restrictions. If they did they would have passed H.R. 2 [b]All you gotta do is read the senate bill and it’s clear it wouldn’t have done anything.[/b] What I will be mad about though, is if the GOP decides to pass foreign aid. Stick to the demand of HR 2 in return for aid.[/quote] Said someone who CLEARLY hasn't read the Senate bill, which was negotiated by the most conservative immigration Senate in the body.[/quote] The amount of cope among right wingers on this thread still astonishes me somehow. First, immigration has been a hair on fire issue, one that dozens (or a few determined) pps have said is why they can never ever vote for Biden. Then a week ago, we made it all up that Trump was blocking anything. Now it’s dead because Trump told his winged monkeys to kill it and that’s a good thing because it was the weakest bill ever? Republicans are deranged. [/quote] You know what is hilarious? Democrats attempting to cast blame on Republicans for the last 3 years of absolute bedlam at the border. We all witnessed Biden's rhetoric during the campaign inviting migrants to surge the border. We all witnessed the 90+ EO's that Biden overturned regarding border security in his first few days in office. We all witnessed Biden and Mayorkas ordering border agents that just being present in the country illegally is not a reason to arrest. We have all witnessed the record encounters at the border, the record number people on the terrorist watch list coming in, the record number of got aways, the record number of migrant deaths, the record number of migrants paroled by Biden, the record amount of fentanyl coming in, the record number of migrants released into our country..... We also know that Jeh Johnson has said that 1000 daily encounters at the border is a crisis. So, permitting anything above that is insane. We don't need anyone to tell us that the border deal is not a "deal" at all. We also know that Biden has the tools - and has had them all along - to make our border more secure. He has chosen not to use those tools. [/quote] What is not hilarious at all is the cynical destruction of the border bill to keep solutions away from the border to try to make Biden look bad. GOP seriously misjudged that. They look like petty, unserious fools that need to be replaced with some actual problem solvers. [/quote] Once again for those in the back...... BIDEN HAS WHAT HE NEEDS TO SECURE THE BORDER BUT CHOOSES NOT TO USE THOSE TOOLS. [/quote] If Biden has all he needs to secure the border, why was the bi-partisan bill necessary in the first place, and why did Trump work so hard to quash it?[/quote] It wasn't. My take is that it started out as a bill in order to FORCE Biden to take action at the border, but when Democrats wouldn't negotiate certain actions, we ended up with a bill that is an IMMIGRATION bill and not a border security bill. [b]Trump didn't work hard to quash it. He expressed his opinion of it, just like many other Republicans. [/b] Say what you want.... Republicans didn't need Trump to tell them this was a horrible bill. [/quote] I have to object to the bolded. Do you not know yet how Trump operates? Like a mob boss, he has his lieutenants (GOP operatives and others in the GOP political ecosystem) issue the threats to people that don't fall in line--Trump himself doesn't necessarily pick up the phone and do it himself. He doesn't even have to tell his operatives what to do--they get the message just from his tweets or pronouncements during interviews and speeches. Case in point, the threats against one of the senators who worked on the bill for over four months, GOP Sen. Lankford: [quote]In a Senate floor speech on Wednesday, Lankford said an unnamed “popular commentator” had “told me flat out, ‘If you try to move a bill that solves the border crisis during this presidential year, I will do whatever I can to destroy you because I do not want you to solve this before the presidential election.’” The lawmaker added, “By the way, they have been faithful to their promise and have done everything they can to destroy me in the past several weeks.” [/quote] A conservative radio personality is taking credit for being the popular commentator who leaned on Lankford. Does it not bother you at all that a former president can hold so much power over his party...even if you agree with his policies? https://news.yahoo.com/conservative-personality-takes-credit-threatening-092518053.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHqGlCfvlOZ83Q_HW29HBDK_XQKVIwIm9q_N9y0Hyym0LA2CzZwupheb9xxsEVs79U-pgydUrwT-_BBhTq2At3va6WQnTh3ocX7j4Cg_qJ94JZHIUkY9NqxbSJFLqB09X2czg1ty25EgHhegJwZcJhOTWtdHv9p8Kg8_rjzRDbyE[/quote] What is the GOP going to do with themselves once Trump is gone? [/quote]
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