Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 13:15     Subject: Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, a young Venezuelan migrant was caught shoplifting in Times Square and then attempted to shoot the officer, missing him and hitting a Brazilian tourist in the leg. He got away and then shot again in the street, when he was then apprehended.


Gee that last part about being arrested strikes a blow to the GOP narrative.


What narrative?
That migrants are committing crimes in our country because they were allowed in, unvetted?
I think this story proves that.
As far as being apprehended, good for the NYPD for finding this miscreant. Now, we will see 1) if he is released without bail (one of Alvin Bragg's favorite ploys) and 2) if he is charged, stands trial, is convicted, and serves time. Then, we will see if 3) he is deported.
Apprehending a criminal, especially one here illegally, is only the start.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 11:38     Subject: Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone knows the reason we have this problem is because Democrats are pro-mass immigration and don’t want tough restrictions.

If they did they would have passed H.R. 2

All you gotta do is read the senate bill and it’s clear it wouldn’t have done anything.

What I will be mad about though, is if the GOP decides to pass foreign aid. Stick to the demand of HR 2 in return for aid.


Said someone who CLEARLY hasn't read the Senate bill, which was negotiated by the most conservative immigration Senate in the body.

The amount of cope among right wingers on this thread still astonishes me somehow. First, immigration has been a hair on fire issue, one that dozens (or a few determined) pps have said is why they can never ever vote for Biden. Then a week ago, we made it all up that Trump was blocking anything. Now it’s dead because Trump told his winged monkeys to kill it and that’s a good thing because it was the weakest bill ever?

Republicans are deranged.


You know what is hilarious?

Democrats attempting to cast blame on Republicans for the last 3 years of absolute bedlam at the border.
We all witnessed Biden's rhetoric during the campaign inviting migrants to surge the border.
We all witnessed the 90+ EO's that Biden overturned regarding border security in his first few days in office.
We all witnessed Biden and Mayorkas ordering border agents that just being present in the country illegally is not a reason to arrest.
We have all witnessed the record encounters at the border, the record number people on the terrorist watch list coming in, the record number of got aways, the record number of migrant deaths, the record number of migrants paroled by Biden, the record amount of fentanyl coming in, the record number of migrants released into our country.....

We also know that Jeh Johnson has said that 1000 daily encounters at the border is a crisis.
So, permitting anything above that is insane.
We don't need anyone to tell us that the border deal is not a "deal" at all.

We also know that Biden has the tools - and has had them all along - to make our border more secure.
He has chosen not to use those tools.


What is not hilarious at all is the cynical destruction of the border bill to keep solutions away from the border to try to make Biden look bad. GOP seriously misjudged that. They look like petty, unserious fools that need to be replaced with some actual problem solvers.


Once again for those in the back......

BIDEN HAS WHAT HE NEEDS TO SECURE THE BORDER BUT CHOOSES NOT TO USE THOSE TOOLS.


If Biden has all he needs to secure the border, why was the bi-partisan bill necessary in the first place, and why did Trump work so hard to quash it?


It wasn't. My take is that it started out as a bill in order to FORCE Biden to take action at the border, but when Democrats wouldn't negotiate certain actions, we ended up with a bill that is an IMMIGRATION bill and not a border security bill.

Trump didn't work hard to quash it. He expressed his opinion of it, just like many other Republicans.
Say what you want.... Republicans didn't need Trump to tell them this was a horrible bill.


I have to object to the bolded. Do you not know yet how Trump operates? Like a mob boss, he has his lieutenants (GOP operatives and others in the GOP political ecosystem) issue the threats to people that don't fall in line--Trump himself doesn't necessarily pick up the phone and do it himself. He doesn't even have to tell his operatives what to do--they get the message just from his tweets or pronouncements during interviews and speeches.

Case in point, the threats against one of the senators who worked on the bill for over four months, GOP Sen. Lankford:

In a Senate floor speech on Wednesday, Lankford said an unnamed “popular commentator” had “told me flat out, ‘If you try to move a bill that solves the border crisis during this presidential year, I will do whatever I can to destroy you because I do not want you to solve this before the presidential election.’” The lawmaker added, “By the way, they have been faithful to their promise and have done everything they can to destroy me in the past several weeks.”


A conservative radio personality is taking credit for being the popular commentator who leaned on Lankford. Does it not bother you at all that a former president can hold so much power over his party...even if you agree with his policies?

https://news.yahoo.com/conservative-personality-takes-credit-threatening-092518053.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHqGlCfvlOZ83Q_HW29HBDK_XQKVIwIm9q_N9y0Hyym0LA2CzZwupheb9xxsEVs79U-pgydUrwT-_BBhTq2At3va6WQnTh3ocX7j4Cg_qJ94JZHIUkY9NqxbSJFLqB09X2czg1ty25EgHhegJwZcJhOTWtdHv9p8Kg8_rjzRDbyE


What is the GOP going to do with themselves once Trump is gone?
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 11:37     Subject: Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, a young Venezuelan migrant was caught shoplifting in Times Square and then attempted to shoot the officer, missing him and hitting a Brazilian tourist in the leg. He got away and then shot again in the street, when he was then apprehended.


Gee that last part about being arrested strikes a blow to the GOP narrative.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 11:05     Subject: Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

Anonymous wrote:What’s great about Trump is he wants credit for squashing it. He baits the left into screwing themselves like a maestro. I’ll bet he baited them into cheating themselves into todays political woodchipper of WW3, hyperinflation, border chaos, crumbling urine drenched crime infested cities, all time low test scores, bank failures and rapidly declining life expectancies. He gets to look like the golden savior.


There isn't WW3.
There is no hyperinflation. The inflation was a result of the dumpster fire of an economy from Trump.
Border chaos - well, the GOP owns it now with no legislation to fix it.
Crime is higher in red states, but Fox won't tell you that. Also, it is really just DC where crime is up in urban areas. Most cities, it is way down.
Low test score: who has been gutting public education? Not the left.
Bank failures? Who wants tighter restrictions and regulation on banks? Not the right.
LOL on life expectancies - that is ALL the anti vaxxers.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 11:02     Subject: Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone knows the reason we have this problem is because Democrats are pro-mass immigration and don’t want tough restrictions.

If they did they would have passed H.R. 2

All you gotta do is read the senate bill and it’s clear it wouldn’t have done anything.

What I will be mad about though, is if the GOP decides to pass foreign aid. Stick to the demand of HR 2 in return for aid.


Said someone who CLEARLY hasn't read the Senate bill, which was negotiated by the most conservative immigration Senate in the body.

The amount of cope among right wingers on this thread still astonishes me somehow. First, immigration has been a hair on fire issue, one that dozens (or a few determined) pps have said is why they can never ever vote for Biden. Then a week ago, we made it all up that Trump was blocking anything. Now it’s dead because Trump told his winged monkeys to kill it and that’s a good thing because it was the weakest bill ever?

Republicans are deranged.


You know what is hilarious?

Democrats attempting to cast blame on Republicans for the last 3 years of absolute bedlam at the border.
We all witnessed Biden's rhetoric during the campaign inviting migrants to surge the border.
We all witnessed the 90+ EO's that Biden overturned regarding border security in his first few days in office.
We all witnessed Biden and Mayorkas ordering border agents that just being present in the country illegally is not a reason to arrest.
We have all witnessed the record encounters at the border, the record number people on the terrorist watch list coming in, the record number of got aways, the record number of migrant deaths, the record number of migrants paroled by Biden, the record amount of fentanyl coming in, the record number of migrants released into our country.....

We also know that Jeh Johnson has said that 1000 daily encounters at the border is a crisis.
So, permitting anything above that is insane.
We don't need anyone to tell us that the border deal is not a "deal" at all.

We also know that Biden has the tools - and has had them all along - to make our border more secure.
He has chosen not to use those tools.


What is not hilarious at all is the cynical destruction of the border bill to keep solutions away from the border to try to make Biden look bad. GOP seriously misjudged that. They look like petty, unserious fools that need to be replaced with some actual problem solvers.


Once again for those in the back......

BIDEN HAS WHAT HE NEEDS TO SECURE THE BORDER BUT CHOOSES NOT TO USE THOSE TOOLS.


If Biden has all he needs to secure the border, why was the bi-partisan bill necessary in the first place, and why did Trump work so hard to quash it?


It wasn't. My take is that it started out as a bill in order to FORCE Biden to take action at the border, but when Democrats wouldn't negotiate certain actions, we ended up with a bill that is an IMMIGRATION bill and not a border security bill.

Trump didn't work hard to quash it. He expressed his opinion of it, just like many other Republicans.
Say what you want.... Republicans didn't need Trump to tell them this was a horrible bill.


That is a hell of a take. The Democrats gave away the house in this Bill and the GOP still flushed it down the toilet. And there wasn't a single provision for the DACA people, which had been a bright red line in the past. That shows how unserious the GOP was in flushing out this bill and now they have been exposed for what they are. The political ads will write themselves, especially the ones with Trump on camera admitting it and the others kowtowing to Trump admitting it. This was a huge political tactical error.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 10:30     Subject: Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

Anonymous wrote:What’s great about Trump is he wants credit for squashing it. He baits the left into screwing themselves like a maestro. I’ll bet he baited them into cheating themselves into todays political woodchipper of WW3, hyperinflation, border chaos, crumbling urine drenched crime infested cities, all time low test scores, bank failures and rapidly declining life expectancies. He gets to look like the golden savior.

The GOP has re-entered their “Trump is a 4-D chess god” I see. Sorry about that.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 10:21     Subject: Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone knows the reason we have this problem is because Democrats are pro-mass immigration and don’t want tough restrictions.

If they did they would have passed H.R. 2

All you gotta do is read the senate bill and it’s clear it wouldn’t have done anything.

What I will be mad about though, is if the GOP decides to pass foreign aid. Stick to the demand of HR 2 in return for aid.


Said someone who CLEARLY hasn't read the Senate bill, which was negotiated by the most conservative immigration Senate in the body.

The amount of cope among right wingers on this thread still astonishes me somehow. First, immigration has been a hair on fire issue, one that dozens (or a few determined) pps have said is why they can never ever vote for Biden. Then a week ago, we made it all up that Trump was blocking anything. Now it’s dead because Trump told his winged monkeys to kill it and that’s a good thing because it was the weakest bill ever?

Republicans are deranged.


You know what is hilarious?

Democrats attempting to cast blame on Republicans for the last 3 years of absolute bedlam at the border.
We all witnessed Biden's rhetoric during the campaign inviting migrants to surge the border.
We all witnessed the 90+ EO's that Biden overturned regarding border security in his first few days in office.
We all witnessed Biden and Mayorkas ordering border agents that just being present in the country illegally is not a reason to arrest.
We have all witnessed the record encounters at the border, the record number people on the terrorist watch list coming in, the record number of got aways, the record number of migrant deaths, the record number of migrants paroled by Biden, the record amount of fentanyl coming in, the record number of migrants released into our country.....

We also know that Jeh Johnson has said that 1000 daily encounters at the border is a crisis.
So, permitting anything above that is insane.
We don't need anyone to tell us that the border deal is not a "deal" at all.

We also know that Biden has the tools - and has had them all along - to make our border more secure.
He has chosen not to use those tools.


What is not hilarious at all is the cynical destruction of the border bill to keep solutions away from the border to try to make Biden look bad. GOP seriously misjudged that. They look like petty, unserious fools that need to be replaced with some actual problem solvers.


Once again for those in the back......

BIDEN HAS WHAT HE NEEDS TO SECURE THE BORDER BUT CHOOSES NOT TO USE THOSE TOOLS.


If Biden has all he needs to secure the border, why was the bi-partisan bill necessary in the first place, and why did Trump work so hard to quash it?


It wasn't. My take is that it started out as a bill in order to FORCE Biden to take action at the border, but when Democrats wouldn't negotiate certain actions, we ended up with a bill that is an IMMIGRATION bill and not a border security bill.

Trump didn't work hard to quash it. He expressed his opinion of it, just like many other Republicans.
Say what you want.... Republicans didn't need Trump to tell them this was a horrible bill.


I have to object to the bolded. Do you not know yet how Trump operates? Like a mob boss, he has his lieutenants (GOP operatives and others in the GOP political ecosystem) issue the threats to people that don't fall in line--Trump himself doesn't necessarily pick up the phone and do it himself. He doesn't even have to tell his operatives what to do--they get the message just from his tweets or pronouncements during interviews and speeches.

Case in point, the threats against one of the senators who worked on the bill for over four months, GOP Sen. Lankford:

In a Senate floor speech on Wednesday, Lankford said an unnamed “popular commentator” had “told me flat out, ‘If you try to move a bill that solves the border crisis during this presidential year, I will do whatever I can to destroy you because I do not want you to solve this before the presidential election.’” The lawmaker added, “By the way, they have been faithful to their promise and have done everything they can to destroy me in the past several weeks.”


A conservative radio personality is taking credit for being the popular commentator who leaned on Lankford. Does it not bother you at all that a former president can hold so much power over his party...even if you agree with his policies?

https://news.yahoo.com/conservative-personality-takes-credit-threatening-092518053.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHqGlCfvlOZ83Q_HW29HBDK_XQKVIwIm9q_N9y0Hyym0LA2CzZwupheb9xxsEVs79U-pgydUrwT-_BBhTq2At3va6WQnTh3ocX7j4Cg_qJ94JZHIUkY9NqxbSJFLqB09X2czg1ty25EgHhegJwZcJhOTWtdHv9p8Kg8_rjzRDbyE
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 09:56     Subject: Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

What’s great about Trump is he wants credit for squashing it. He baits the left into screwing themselves like a maestro. I’ll bet he baited them into cheating themselves into todays political woodchipper of WW3, hyperinflation, border chaos, crumbling urine drenched crime infested cities, all time low test scores, bank failures and rapidly declining life expectancies. He gets to look like the golden savior.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 09:54     Subject: Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, a young Venezuelan migrant was caught shoplifting in Times Square and then attempted to shoot the officer, missing him and hitting a Brazilian tourist in the leg. He got away and then shot again in the street, when he was then apprehended.

So now you’re going to go back to “immigration is the worstest thing that’s ever happened to America”? From a First Nations/Native American perspective, 100%, but if that’s the case both you and I have no business being here either.

Still here we are. The GOP claiming that immigration is the #1 issue of all time… and they just killed the legislation to address it.


Don't conflate "immigration" with ILLEGAL immigration.
And, the GOP is claiming that ILLLEGAL immigration is the #1 issue. Numerous polls cite is as the number 1 issue.

And, one more thing..... Your bolded statement is just plain stupid. We currently have laws that are supposed to protect our border. Biden is ignoring them.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 09:51     Subject: Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone knows the reason we have this problem is because Democrats are pro-mass immigration and don’t want tough restrictions.

If they did they would have passed H.R. 2

All you gotta do is read the senate bill and it’s clear it wouldn’t have done anything.

What I will be mad about though, is if the GOP decides to pass foreign aid. Stick to the demand of HR 2 in return for aid.


Said someone who CLEARLY hasn't read the Senate bill, which was negotiated by the most conservative immigration Senate in the body.

The amount of cope among right wingers on this thread still astonishes me somehow. First, immigration has been a hair on fire issue, one that dozens (or a few determined) pps have said is why they can never ever vote for Biden. Then a week ago, we made it all up that Trump was blocking anything. Now it’s dead because Trump told his winged monkeys to kill it and that’s a good thing because it was the weakest bill ever?

Republicans are deranged.


You know what is hilarious?

Democrats attempting to cast blame on Republicans for the last 3 years of absolute bedlam at the border.
We all witnessed Biden's rhetoric during the campaign inviting migrants to surge the border.
We all witnessed the 90+ EO's that Biden overturned regarding border security in his first few days in office.
We all witnessed Biden and Mayorkas ordering border agents that just being present in the country illegally is not a reason to arrest.
We have all witnessed the record encounters at the border, the record number people on the terrorist watch list coming in, the record number of got aways, the record number of migrant deaths, the record number of migrants paroled by Biden, the record amount of fentanyl coming in, the record number of migrants released into our country.....

We also know that Jeh Johnson has said that 1000 daily encounters at the border is a crisis.
So, permitting anything above that is insane.
We don't need anyone to tell us that the border deal is not a "deal" at all.

We also know that Biden has the tools - and has had them all along - to make our border more secure.
He has chosen not to use those tools.


What is not hilarious at all is the cynical destruction of the border bill to keep solutions away from the border to try to make Biden look bad. GOP seriously misjudged that. They look like petty, unserious fools that need to be replaced with some actual problem solvers.


Once again for those in the back......

BIDEN HAS WHAT HE NEEDS TO SECURE THE BORDER BUT CHOOSES NOT TO USE THOSE TOOLS.


If Biden has all he needs to secure the border, why was the bi-partisan bill necessary in the first place, and why did Trump work so hard to quash it?


It wasn't. My take is that it started out as a bill in order to FORCE Biden to take action at the border, but when Democrats wouldn't negotiate certain actions, we ended up with a bill that is an IMMIGRATION bill and not a border security bill.

Trump didn't work hard to quash it. He expressed his opinion of it, just like many other Republicans.
Say what you want.... Republicans didn't need Trump to tell them this was a horrible bill.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 20:25     Subject: Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, a young Venezuelan migrant was caught shoplifting in Times Square and then attempted to shoot the officer, missing him and hitting a Brazilian tourist in the leg. He got away and then shot again in the street, when he was then apprehended.

So now you’re going to go back to “immigration is the worstest thing that’s ever happened to America”? From a First Nations/Native American perspective, 100%, but if that’s the case both you and I have no business being here either.

Still here we are. The GOP claiming that immigration is the #1 issue of all time… and they just killed the legislation to address it.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 19:53     Subject: Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone knows the reason we have this problem is because Democrats are pro-mass immigration and don’t want tough restrictions.

If they did they would have passed H.R. 2

All you gotta do is read the senate bill and it’s clear it wouldn’t have done anything.

What I will be mad about though, is if the GOP decides to pass foreign aid. Stick to the demand of HR 2 in return for aid.


Said someone who CLEARLY hasn't read the Senate bill, which was negotiated by the most conservative immigration Senate in the body.

The amount of cope among right wingers on this thread still astonishes me somehow. First, immigration has been a hair on fire issue, one that dozens (or a few determined) pps have said is why they can never ever vote for Biden. Then a week ago, we made it all up that Trump was blocking anything. Now it’s dead because Trump told his winged monkeys to kill it and that’s a good thing because it was the weakest bill ever?

Republicans are deranged.


You know what is hilarious?

Democrats attempting to cast blame on Republicans for the last 3 years of absolute bedlam at the border.
We all witnessed Biden's rhetoric during the campaign inviting migrants to surge the border.
We all witnessed the 90+ EO's that Biden overturned regarding border security in his first few days in office.
We all witnessed Biden and Mayorkas ordering border agents that just being present in the country illegally is not a reason to arrest.
We have all witnessed the record encounters at the border, the record number people on the terrorist watch list coming in, the record number of got aways, the record number of migrant deaths, the record number of migrants paroled by Biden, the record amount of fentanyl coming in, the record number of migrants released into our country.....

We also know that Jeh Johnson has said that 1000 daily encounters at the border is a crisis.
So, permitting anything above that is insane.
We don't need anyone to tell us that the border deal is not a "deal" at all.

We also know that Biden has the tools - and has had them all along - to make our border more secure.
He has chosen not to use those tools.


What is not hilarious at all is the cynical destruction of the border bill to keep solutions away from the border to try to make Biden look bad. GOP seriously misjudged that. They look like petty, unserious fools that need to be replaced with some actual problem solvers.


Once again for those in the back......

BIDEN HAS WHAT HE NEEDS TO SECURE THE BORDER BUT CHOOSES NOT TO USE THOSE TOOLS.


If Biden has all he needs to secure the border, why was the bi-partisan bill necessary in the first place, and why did Trump work so hard to quash it?
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 19:36     Subject: Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

Meanwhile, a young Venezuelan migrant was caught shoplifting in Times Square and then attempted to shoot the officer, missing him and hitting a Brazilian tourist in the leg. He got away and then shot again in the street, when he was then apprehended.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 19:31     Subject: Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone knows the reason we have this problem is because Democrats are pro-mass immigration and don’t want tough restrictions.

If they did they would have passed H.R. 2

All you gotta do is read the senate bill and it’s clear it wouldn’t have done anything.

What I will be mad about though, is if the GOP decides to pass foreign aid. Stick to the demand of HR 2 in return for aid.


Said someone who CLEARLY hasn't read the Senate bill, which was negotiated by the most conservative immigration Senate in the body.

The amount of cope among right wingers on this thread still astonishes me somehow. First, immigration has been a hair on fire issue, one that dozens (or a few determined) pps have said is why they can never ever vote for Biden. Then a week ago, we made it all up that Trump was blocking anything. Now it’s dead because Trump told his winged monkeys to kill it and that’s a good thing because it was the weakest bill ever?

Republicans are deranged.


You know what is hilarious?

Democrats attempting to cast blame on Republicans for the last 3 years of absolute bedlam at the border.
We all witnessed Biden's rhetoric during the campaign inviting migrants to surge the border.
We all witnessed the 90+ EO's that Biden overturned regarding border security in his first few days in office.
We all witnessed Biden and Mayorkas ordering border agents that just being present in the country illegally is not a reason to arrest.
We have all witnessed the record encounters at the border, the record number people on the terrorist watch list coming in, the record number of got aways, the record number of migrant deaths, the record number of migrants paroled by Biden, the record amount of fentanyl coming in, the record number of migrants released into our country.....

We also know that Jeh Johnson has said that 1000 daily encounters at the border is a crisis.
So, permitting anything above that is insane.
We don't need anyone to tell us that the border deal is not a "deal" at all.

We also know that Biden has the tools - and has had them all along - to make our border more secure.
He has chosen not to use those tools.


What is not hilarious at all is the cynical destruction of the border bill to keep solutions away from the border to try to make Biden look bad. GOP seriously misjudged that. They look like petty, unserious fools that need to be replaced with some actual problem solvers.


Once again for those in the back......

BIDEN HAS WHAT HE NEEDS TO SECURE THE BORDER BUT CHOOSES NOT TO USE THOSE TOOLS.


The GOP looks bad on this one. Big political mistake.

+1

You guys look like the unserious hacks you are, beholden to a disgraced former reality star. And you’re still carrying water for him.


Again, as I stated earlier:

“I hold no love for the GOP, I’d be pissed if they actually blocked a *good* bill simply for political reasons. But this was not a good bill at all. And actually just reinforced my view that many GOP members of congress are acting in bad faith to subvert Trump and their base. Because otherwise they’d have never “negotiated” such a horrible “bipartisan bill” in the first place. Because most people wont take the time out to actually read 300+ pages of legislative text to see how horrible it is. Instead they’re just seeing headlines that accuse the GOP of playing politics.

Which they are, but not for gains. This was obviously an attempt to hurt Trump. Many would rather have Biden”



trump is in deep doo doo either way then. it hurts him to have killed it and according to you, it hurts him if they passed it. Too bad.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 17:53     Subject: Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone knows the reason we have this problem is because Democrats are pro-mass immigration and don’t want tough restrictions.

If they did they would have passed H.R. 2

All you gotta do is read the senate bill and it’s clear it wouldn’t have done anything.

What I will be mad about though, is if the GOP decides to pass foreign aid. Stick to the demand of HR 2 in return for aid.


Said someone who CLEARLY hasn't read the Senate bill, which was negotiated by the most conservative immigration Senate in the body.

The amount of cope among right wingers on this thread still astonishes me somehow. First, immigration has been a hair on fire issue, one that dozens (or a few determined) pps have said is why they can never ever vote for Biden. Then a week ago, we made it all up that Trump was blocking anything. Now it’s dead because Trump told his winged monkeys to kill it and that’s a good thing because it was the weakest bill ever?

Republicans are deranged.


You know what is hilarious?

Democrats attempting to cast blame on Republicans for the last 3 years of absolute bedlam at the border.
We all witnessed Biden's rhetoric during the campaign inviting migrants to surge the border.
We all witnessed the 90+ EO's that Biden overturned regarding border security in his first few days in office.
We all witnessed Biden and Mayorkas ordering border agents that just being present in the country illegally is not a reason to arrest.
We have all witnessed the record encounters at the border, the record number people on the terrorist watch list coming in, the record number of got aways, the record number of migrant deaths, the record number of migrants paroled by Biden, the record amount of fentanyl coming in, the record number of migrants released into our country.....

We also know that Jeh Johnson has said that 1000 daily encounters at the border is a crisis.
So, permitting anything above that is insane.
We don't need anyone to tell us that the border deal is not a "deal" at all.

We also know that Biden has the tools - and has had them all along - to make our border more secure.
He has chosen not to use those tools.


What is not hilarious at all is the cynical destruction of the border bill to keep solutions away from the border to try to make Biden look bad. GOP seriously misjudged that. They look like petty, unserious fools that need to be replaced with some actual problem solvers.


Once again for those in the back......

BIDEN HAS WHAT HE NEEDS TO SECURE THE BORDER BUT CHOOSES NOT TO USE THOSE TOOLS.


The GOP looks bad on this one. Big political mistake.

+1

You guys look like the unserious hacks you are, beholden to a disgraced former reality star. And you’re still carrying water for him.


Again, as I stated earlier:

“I hold no love for the GOP, I’d be pissed if they actually blocked a *good* bill simply for political reasons. But this was not a good bill at all. And actually just reinforced my view that many GOP members of congress are acting in bad faith to subvert Trump and their base. Because otherwise they’d have never “negotiated” such a horrible “bipartisan bill” in the first place. Because most people wont take the time out to actually read 300+ pages of legislative text to see how horrible it is. Instead they’re just seeing headlines that accuse the GOP of playing politics.

Which they are, but not for gains. This was obviously an attempt to hurt Trump. Many would rather have Biden”