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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]She is young and wild and he is older and stable. The kids need both parents but her drama with international kipnapping charge is not rational or helpful. I think the kids should be back and forth to US and England but primary place US because this is where they were born and the parents were married and UK is just an easy place for mom now that she has bored of being married. She should have considered this before she married a US citizen and solely lived here for years.[/quote]

They were married in France. He kept their passports and refused to let them return to their mom. That is kidnapping [/quote]

You’re being intentionally obtuse. They married in Vegas first. And the father didn’t keep them from their mother- he filed for divorce which, by court order, kept her from taking them back to England to establish residence there, at least until a temporary custody arrangement is established. She was welcome to be with them in the us and has been. The reality is that it’s a super messy situation.[/quote]

Do you realize how absurd that is? The mother is English. They had a home in the UK. They were looking at schools in the UK. His filing should not prevent them from traveling to the UK. [/quote]

Okay, and their father is American. They lived in the US for the children’s entire lives minus 2-3 months between mid April and July.

Looking at schools and buying homes is meaningless when you’re a celebrity and live a nomadic lifestyle. What’s material is how long they stay there. Which in this case, barely happened. Post separation, both parents have an equal opportunity to determine their children’s primary residence.[/quote]

That's not true.  You're not normally allowed to divorce and uproot your children to wherever you want their primary residence to be now that you are free to choose on your own.  I don't love living in DC, but if I divorced my husband I couldn't just say, me and the kids are going to live in Georgia now.  No court would allow it absent my husband's agreement (assuming, I guess, a baseline level of shared responsibility for the children between us).

Just as a practical matter, it can't be that "post separation, both parents have an equal opportunity to determine their children’s primary residence."  Because if they truly have an equal opportunity to determine it, and they disagree, how could that be worked out?  No court would say my kids have to spend 50% of their time in DC and 50% of their time in Georgia, and we can just figure out home schooling or whatever.  You do sometimes see school year in one place vs. breaks and summers in the other, but clearly the school year is the primary residence in that case.

I'm also not sure if you really believe that "post separation, both parents have an equal opportunity to determine their children’s primary residence," because I'm not sure if you are one of the people saying it should be 50/50 UK/US or if what you really think is that they should be primarily US-based (which would not be what Sophie chooses with her "equal opportunity").

I get that you think the move to England earlier this year should be discounted because the girls spent most of their lives before that in the U.S.  To my mind (especially considering the girls' very young ages), they moved and that's where "home" is now, and Joe shouldn't get to displace them again just because he regrets the move or it's inconvenient now that he is divorcing their mother.  [/quote]

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