Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is young and wild and he is older and stable. The kids need both parents but her drama with international kipnapping charge is not rational or helpful. I think the kids should be back and forth to US and England but primary place US because this is where they were born and the parents were married and UK is just an easy place for mom now that she has bored of being married. She should have considered this before she married a US citizen and solely lived here for years.
They were married in France. He kept their passports and refused to let them return to their mom. That is kidnapping
You’re being intentionally obtuse. They married in Vegas first. And the father didn’t keep them from their mother- he filed for divorce which, by court order, kept her from taking them back to England to establish residence there, at least until a temporary custody arrangement is established. She was welcome to be with them in the us and has been. The reality is that it’s a super messy situation.
Do you realize how absurd that is? The mother is English. They had a home in the UK. They were looking at schools in the UK. His filing should not prevent them from traveling to the UK.
Okay, and their father is American. They lived in the US for the children’s entire lives minus 2-3 months between mid April and July.
Looking at schools and buying homes is meaningless when you’re a celebrity and live a nomadic lifestyle. What’s material is how long they stay there. Which in this case, barely happened. Post separation, both parents have an equal opportunity to determine their children’s primary residence.
Anonymous wrote:The Ring camera footage is a red herring. He obviously filed when she was busy working out of the country to blind side her and he has been trying to debase her since then. Her custody filing very clearly shows an imminent family move to the UK. His timing of his divorce filing looks like an attempt to disrupt the timing of the move. And although she is not contesting the divorce, he picked a time when she was busy filming abroad, rather than jointly picking time and venue as many do.
The paps are stationed outside of Taylor's NYC townhouse so that's why Sophie got papped. No one is following Joe around; he is calling them himself.
Anonymous wrote:She is young and wild and he is older and stable. The kids need both parents but her drama with international kipnapping charge is not rational or helpful. I think the kids should be back and forth to US and England but primary place US because this is where they were born and the parents were married and UK is just an easy place for mom now that she has bored of being married. She should have considered this before she married a US citizen and solely lived here for years.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is entirely speculative, but I wonder if there are tensions between them on the privacy of the children. They've both talked about the importance of privacy, but I've always had the feeling that the level of privacy was really driven by Sophie. Certainly Joe and Sophie's children are kept more private than the children of Kevin and Nick, and I wonder if Joe wouldn't prefer to loosen the reins a bit. The choice of home in England certainly suggests priority being given to allowing the girls to grow up in a more "normal" and private way. But even if they are on the same page about wanting privacy in theory, anyone can tell that the girls' privacy will be easier to protect in England, and that is likely at least part of why Sophie is willing to go to the mattresses on this.
I agree with you completely.
I think it’s telling that within 24 hours of filing for divorce, Joe Jonas scheduled a paparazzi shoot with his kids. That was a clear F U to Sophie.
I hope she gets custody. She’s the only one trying to protect the kids. Jonas treats them like props.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is young and wild and he is older and stable. The kids need both parents but her drama with international kipnapping charge is not rational or helpful. I think the kids should be back and forth to US and England but primary place US because this is where they were born and the parents were married and UK is just an easy place for mom now that she has bored of being married. She should have considered this before she married a US citizen and solely lived here for years.
They were married in France. He kept their passports and refused to let them return to their mom. That is kidnapping
You’re being intentionally obtuse. They married in Vegas first. And the father didn’t keep them from their mother- he filed for divorce which, by court order, kept her from taking them back to England to establish residence there, at least until a temporary custody arrangement is established. She was welcome to be with them in the us and has been. The reality is that it’s a super messy situation.
Do you realize how absurd that is? The mother is English. They had a home in the UK. They were looking at schools in the UK. His filing should not prevent them from traveling to the UK.
Anonymous wrote:The Ring camera footage is a red herring. He obviously filed when she was busy working out of the country to blind side her and he has been trying to debase her since then. Her custody filing very clearly shows an imminent family move to the UK. His timing of his divorce filing looks like an attempt to disrupt the timing of the move. And although she is not contesting the divorce, he picked a time when she was busy filming abroad, rather than jointly picking time and venue as many do.
The paps are stationed outside of Taylor's NYC townhouse so that's why Sophie got papped. No one is following Joe around; he is calling them himself.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is young and wild and he is older and stable. The kids need both parents but her drama with international kipnapping charge is not rational or helpful. I think the kids should be back and forth to US and England but primary place US because this is where they were born and the parents were married and UK is just an easy place for mom now that she has bored of being married. She should have considered this before she married a US citizen and solely lived here for years.
They were married in France. He kept their passports and refused to let them return to their mom. That is kidnapping
You’re being intentionally obtuse. They married in Vegas first. And the father didn’t keep them from their mother- he filed for divorce which, by court order, kept her from taking them back to England to establish residence there, at least until a temporary custody arrangement is established. She was welcome to be with them in the us and has been. The reality is that it’s a super messy situation.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is young and wild and he is older and stable. The kids need both parents but her drama with international kipnapping charge is not rational or helpful. I think the kids should be back and forth to US and England but primary place US because this is where they were born and the parents were married and UK is just an easy place for mom now that she has bored of being married. She should have considered this before she married a US citizen and solely lived here for years.
They were married in France. He kept their passports and refused to let them return to their mom. That is kidnapping
You’re being intentionally obtuse. They married in Vegas first. And the father didn’t keep them from their mother- he filed for divorce which, by court order, kept her from taking them back to England to establish residence there, at least until a temporary custody arrangement is established. She was welcome to be with them in the us and has been. The reality is that it’s a super messy situation.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is entirely speculative, but I wonder if there are tensions between them on the privacy of the children. They've both talked about the importance of privacy, but I've always had the feeling that the level of privacy was really driven by Sophie. Certainly Joe and Sophie's children are kept more private than the children of Kevin and Nick, and I wonder if Joe wouldn't prefer to loosen the reins a bit. The choice of home in England certainly suggests priority being given to allowing the girls to grow up in a more "normal" and private way. But even if they are on the same page about wanting privacy in theory, anyone can tell that the girls' privacy will be easier to protect in England, and that is likely at least part of why Sophie is willing to go to the mattresses on this.
I agree with you completely.
I think it’s telling that within 24 hours of filing for divorce, Joe Jonas scheduled a paparazzi shoot with his kids. That was a clear F U to Sophie.
I hope she gets custody. She’s the only one trying to protect the kids. Jonas treats them like props.
She’s been seen with them plenty over the past week or so playing the down to earth mom in sweatpants. She’s not exactly hiding and is very much trying to show that she is an involved parent (and argue that hence the kids should be with her in the UK)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is young and wild and he is older and stable. The kids need both parents but her drama with international kipnapping charge is not rational or helpful. I think the kids should be back and forth to US and England but primary place US because this is where they were born and the parents were married and UK is just an easy place for mom now that she has bored of being married. She should have considered this before she married a US citizen and solely lived here for years.
They were married in France. He kept their passports and refused to let them return to their mom. That is kidnapping
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is young and wild and he is older and stable. The kids need both parents but her drama with international kipnapping charge is not rational or helpful. I think the kids should be back and forth to US and England but primary place US because this is where they were born and the parents were married and UK is just an easy place for mom now that she has bored of being married. She should have considered this before she married a US citizen and solely lived here for years.
They were married in France. He kept their passports and refused to let them return to their mom. That is kidnapping
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was speculation about what Joe heard on the Ring camera. An insider said he heard Sophia trashing him, and that was the final straw.
Yeah, I don’t blame her.
He thinks he’s Justin Timberlake and it’s the 1990’s. The way he tried to paint Sophie as a cheater/partier/bad mom in the most passive aggressive way was super gross. He didn’t even have the balls to do it directly, but hid behind “sources” and leaks.
Anonymous wrote:She is young and wild and he is older and stable. The kids need both parents but her drama with international kipnapping charge is not rational or helpful. I think the kids should be back and forth to US and England but primary place US because this is where they were born and the parents were married and UK is just an easy place for mom now that she has bored of being married. She should have considered this before she married a US citizen and solely lived here for years.
Anonymous wrote:There was speculation about what Joe heard on the Ring camera. An insider said he heard Sophia trashing him, and that was the final straw.