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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]She is young and wild and he is older and stable. The kids need both parents but her drama with international kipnapping charge is not rational or helpful. I think the kids should be back and forth to US and England but primary place US because this is where they were born and the parents were married and UK is just an easy place for mom now that she has bored of being married. She should have considered this before she married a US citizen and solely lived here for years.[/quote]

They were married in France. He kept their passports and refused to let them return to their mom. That is kidnapping [/quote]

You’re being intentionally obtuse. They married in Vegas first. And the father didn’t keep them from their mother- he filed for divorce which, by court order, kept her from taking them back to England to establish residence there, at least until a temporary custody arrangement is established. She was welcome to be with them in the us and has been. The reality is that it’s a super messy situation.[/quote]

I've been really interested to see the Florida court order that Jonas referenced in his statement after Sophie filed; I don't think you can download documents from the docket in Florida, and I haven't seen anyone publish it.  He says the order was served on her the day after his filing, so whatever he is referencing is clearly something that basically automatically happened upon filing (which assumes that the children are based on Florida).

One thing I've also seen is that news headlines (even from sources you'd consider more reputable, as opposed to something like Us Weekly) can be very misleading.  For example, I saw plenty of headlines trumpeting that they were ordered to keep the kids in New York, when what actually happened is that Joe and Sophie reached an agreement to keep the kids in New York and asked the court to enter a consent order.

What I find interesting is that what Joe's statement actually said was that "the Florida Court has already entered an order that restricts both parents from relocating the children."  It is interesting that Joe didn't even assert that the Florida order he is talking about says that the kids have to, for example, stay in Florida (indeed, the kids weren't even in Florida when he filed), or stay in the United States, or not leave the country.  All his statement said was that the order "restricts both parents from relocating the children."  "Relocation" is actually a defined term in Florida law that means "a change in the location of the principal residence of a parent or other person."  If all the Florida order said was that neither parent could "relocate" the children, I don't think it would actually violate the order for Sophie to take them back home to England.

(You almost have to assume this is right, really, because I doubt Sophie's lawyers would be advising her to do anything that would clearly violate a court order, especially because violating orders like that in a parental alienation kind of way tends to have consequences.)[/quote]

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