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[quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]Jeff's witness looks credible though - LOL[/quote]

Proven wrong about the book but I am still convinced that the police used unnecessary and unreasonable force.

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Jeff I understand your point of view and I respect it.

However if the police have someone pointing a gun at them, at a bus stop where children will soon be arriving no less, how should they have handled it?

I really am curious and I've asked this before ITT and haven't gotten an answer. [/quote]

I didn't actually see any evidence that he posted the gun at anyone. However, police departments elsewhere in the world appear to be better trained than those in the US in deescalating situations. This situation seems to have gone (according to the latest police version that I've heard which might not be the latest anymore) from pot possession, to gun possession, to shooting. Given that his wife was right there, they might have wanted to stop their shouting at him to get out of the truck and take a minute to talk to her. It would have been worthwhile for the officers to calm down, relax, and let the wife talk (from a distance) to her husband. She would have had some insight in to his mindset. I suspect that he was thinking, "I've been in jail, I've sort of got things turned around, but now I'm going back. F-that". Maybe his wife could have told him things were not as hopeless as they seemed to him and that he should cooperate. 
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