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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is NATO really defunct without the US? Diminished, maybe And if NATO continues without the US, what happens to the 5 Eyes and other alliances whose members no longer trust the US?[/quote] No Nato will be fine. They have a GDP of 27 trillion and a population of 610 million without the US. 5 eyes will become 4 eyes. The Europeans can build anything the US can build but better at this point. Look at Airbus vs Boeing. Only about 15% or 142 billion of the US defense budget is spent in Nato. Though this is impossible to break out of the US military because it encompasses all overseas operations. The US would not reduce any spending if it left Nato. The loss of European bases and shared bases would cripple the US military capability for decades and cost trillions to replace. We use a lot of European bases outside Europe. The Europeans spend over 500 billion a year for Nato. The US has 100,000 troop in Europe and would deploy 200,000 more(this was before republicans said they will not honor article 5). Nato without the US has an active duty forces of 2.11 million plus another 1.9 million reservist. Nato without the US has 7,000 main battle tanks, 2,300 combat aircraft, 4,000 helicopters, 8,500 artillery pieces, etc, etc. Remember Nato without the US will not need these very expensive weapons systems that work only 1/2 the time. Russia just does not have the capabilities to challenge Nato without the US. Without Nato buying things like the f-35 cost would rise dramatically and the already expensive maintenance cost skyrocket. Same for all the US weapons systems- patriot missiles, blackhawks, Ospreys, etc. The maintenance is too expensive and dependent on the US. This would be a very stupid move for the US.[/quote]
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