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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is NATO  really defunct without the US?
Diminished,  maybe
And if NATO continues without the US, what happens to the 5 Eyes and other alliances whose members no longer trust the US?[/quote]

NATO is simply the United States with political cover. Without the U.S., NATO is utterly defunct. [/quote]

This is silly.

They have nearly $2M troops and sophisticated weaponry and better leadership (now).

They also have nuclear weapons and various financial levers.

NATO would be weaker, and they lack a peer navy, but the US is also much weaker now because of trump and continues to decline. China has to be laughing its ass of.  They get to solely create a new world order without the US because a bunch of morons didn’t want to wear a mask or get their ouchy shots or bought into whatever trans sex fantasies the maga men seem in to.[/quote] 450M of that 2M is  Turkey, anybody really counting on that being productive or even available if the time comes ?[/quote]

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