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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Repeat after me: other people’s gender identity is none of my business and I don’t need to police it. It’s literally not up to you decide when a person can or should transition[/quote]

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In our society we protect children.  They’re not allowed to drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes, get a tattoo, go to a tanning salon.   Yet we’re allowing them to surgically alter their bodies and take hormones.  A 4000% increase in girls seeking treatment for gender issues is a cause for serious concern.  We should be looking at why so many girls want to opt out of womanhood and boys opt out of manhood.  It’s not out of line to raise the alarm over this.  [/quote]

You’re very misinformed. Most teens who transition do not have any type of surgery. The medication they take essentially puts hormonal development “on pause” to allow them time to transition or, if necessary, transition back if they decide to do that. Coming off the medication would continue development as usual. They’re not “opting out” of anything - they are opting into living life that is true to who they are. your faux concern is way off base. [/quote]

The drugs used to “pause” puberty are not without harm.   They can cause a lifetime of issues related to bone loss, including brittle bones and painful joints.   https://khn.org/news/women-fear-drug-they-used-to-halt-puberty-led-to-health-problems/

There are minors getting hormones and “top surgery”.   They’re being given medications rather than the mental heath care they really need.  Here’s one psychiatrist’s story.   https://quillette.com/2017/10/06/misunderstanding-new-kind-gender-dysphoria/

Look at Jazz Jennings, arguably the poster child for transitioning as a minor.  At the age of 19, Jazz has never experienced an orgasm.  She has a vagina which has to be dilated daily, which allows her to participate in a sex act she won’t derive pleasure from.  She’s been sterilized.  She’ll never have children of her own.  All this because at the age of 2, she was a little boy who liked dresses and the color purple, and some say was emulating a beloved older sister.   [/quote]

She has bodily autonomy. You don't get a say in what she (and her family and doctors) decide to do with her body. 
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But women don't get to say who they allow access to their bodies without being labeled transphobic.(see link in this thread). Lesbians are cancelled, harassed, and receive death threats for saying they don't want to have sex with natal men. And I am sure you agree with that.

You absolutely, 100% do not truly care about bodily autonomy. I think you are lying.[/quote]

What page was that? I haven’t read all of the early pages.

You are making a lot of assumptions about me. Why is that?

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This article:

https://medium.com/@QSE/when-you-say-i-would-never-date-a-trans-person-its-transphobic-here-s-why-aa6fdcf59aca

I fully support anti-discrimination, use of preferred gender, etc. But articles like this are appalling. NOBODY gets to decide who gets access to my body or any other person's body for me. This article is rape culture straight up. And it is against bodily autonomy.

If you support this author, if you think she is right, you cannot simultaneously say you support bodily autonomy.
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It’s complicated - people are attracted to certain looks or characteristics.

I read her op-ed as “keep an open mind” and I don’t really see how you connect that to “rape culture”.  Can you explain? 
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Lesbian here. It bothers me because my mom also wanted me to “keep an open mind” about dating men. My sexual orientation is not changeable. And I’m not attracted to gender identity, I’m attracted to sex. Same as most people.

This quote from the article particularly bothers me:

&gt; “ Are you afraid of genitals you’re not familiar with? Some trans women have a penis, some don’t. Some trans men have a penis, some don’t. You can’t assume someone’s genitals based on their identity, and more so, you might be missing out on sex that’s fun and pleasurable just because you’re unable to see a penis as feminine or a vulva as masculine. How is my permanently attached strapon functionally any different than a cis woman’s detachable strapon?”

Your PEN*S is not remotely comparable to anyone’s STRAPON. This is exactly what straight men say to try to get lesbians to sleep with them. My dislike of male anatomy isn’t something I need to get over — that is what Christian conversion therapy tries and fails to do.

And while a trans woman may or may not have a pn*s, she definitely doesn’t have a vag*na. Even the surgical ones are just not the same. [/quote]

Thank you for explaining.

Personally, I still don’t quite see the article as “rape culture”. To me, it didn’t sound like the author was trying to force sex or coerce anyone. But that’s based on my own experiences and perspectives. Maybe the author is drawing only upon her own  experiences and knowledge and wasn’t aware of conversion techniques, etc.?

Glad you shared so I can understand your perspective better. 
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