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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.[/quote]
The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.[/quote]

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄[/quote]Showcases will be by grade starting next year.[/quote]

Is this documented anywhere?[/quote]Posted by USYS

Was in very small print.

Grouping older players by school year places players in a more consistent emotional and physical developmental environment. School age grouping will help college recruitment. Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches.[/quote]
As youve been told multiple times. This does not mean GY. USYS is just calling out that by changing from BY to SY + along with August birthdays playing up all players on the field will be one grade in school. (As opposed to the way things were under BY)[/quote]That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't mention August playing up and many kids in age groups, not just August, are off grade. Going grade year requires a bunch of kids switching teams, some will play up and some will play down.

Showcases going graduation year, "Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches."[/quote]
Think about it.

In SY all players on the field will be one grade assuming Aug birthdays play up (not down).

This is what USYS means + the way things were pre 2017.[/quote]

I find it ridiculous that people are saying Aug-Sept kids playing with their school year, what you call up, is playing up.  My DC is an Aug -Sept and has been playing school year, what next year is called playing next “up”, for 8 years.  Next year the league says they should go down, outside of school year, and you say they will be playing up for showcases if they play on school year.  This means they will be dropped down for all non-showcase events and then be playing with the team they have been playing for almost a decade and you call that playing up.  This is nonsense.  The new rules place them down, even though they were good enough to play on school year the whole time they have been playing.  Then they play down, with lower year skill and are expected to just jump into playing against bigger stronger better kids during showcases, when scouts will be watching, when the whole first part of the year they were playing with younger kids.  Just dumb.  If they should play on grade for showcases, when it matters, then they should play on grade all year, with their current teams, so they are ready for the showcases.  [/quote]

I get your frustration, but your DC didn't play on school year the last 8 years. Your DC played in a 12-month window with older/younger players, some of which were the same grade and some of which weren't. Next season, they'll be kids who were playing at a higher level. It'll be different.[/quote]

That is the misinformation that is being spread.  Almost every person on my DC’s team was in the same SY, thus on grade.  The change makes almost half the kids move to non-SY.   Let’s start with that as what is happening on the ground.  That is a fact.  100% were playing with their classmates, or kids whose parents held them back, but were the same age.  Now 50% are negatively impacted.  Why should my DC be negatively impacted because they started school on time, played in the right age, with their classmates, because a couple parents held their kid back?  Make a smarter rule.  SY unless your kid is not in the correct SY, then Aug-Jul, how hard is that?  Fixes everyone’s issues and doesn’t hose a bunch of kids.  This is stupid.[/quote]

But my kid’s team is the exact opposite. More than half the kids are playing “up” to the team that is calendar-wise the year above them (my kid is a November birthday). So, for them, this change will make teams much closer to matching school year. Obviously how this affects an individual team will vary, but this will obviously result in more kids playing with their SY given that it only excludes outliers rather than 4-5 months of the year.[/quote]
What you're describing at outliers are Aug/Sept birthdays. But under SY these players arent trapped. All they need to do is play up on the correct grade in school team. Do this and all players on the field are a single grade in school. [/quote]These players you want to voluntarily play up can't unless they are good enough. Clubs in the DMV aren't following grades. And there will be so many other kids off grade from staying up an age group or held back in school that there will be a big mix of grades. It doesn't matter though, just the 12 month window matters.[/quote]

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