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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Because illegal immigration from the South did not exist before Putin?  Because poor South Americans need extra encouragement to come to the US?  Because the US hasn't been a dream for most of South America before Putin came to power? Don't be ridiculous.[/quote]

No because he exploited a terrible situation and made it way way worse through spreading well documented misinformation to locals and even providing Russian human smugglers. [/quote]

You're saying there aren't homegrown smugglers in Mexico and the rest of LatAm? Like the coyote industry does not exist? What information do you think the locals needed to decide to move to the U.S.?  I mean is there ANYTHING about life in the US that is possibly a secret to them by now? This is not a young business you know. A bit weird to pin it on Russia since this business has been booming for decades. [/quote]

No I’m saying he continued the tactics he employed to destabilize Europe by driving Syrian refugees into Europe to exacerbate an already serious situation.

And It is working - I am hearing life long democrats talk about voting for the Republican candidate due to concerns about surging illegal immigration. Putin combines driving illegal immigration into liberal democracies with misinformation that favors right wing authoritarian candidates because he knows isolating Western countries and fracturing alliances with other democracies helps Russia (and China) to further their goals for global dominance.

Russian populist misinformation helped drive Brexit and the UK is in a much weaker economic and political international position for it. He is trying to destroy NATO which would leave Western allies much more vulnerable.

He cultivated, trained and armed Hamas (in collaboration with Iran) over 17 years prior to the October 7 attack. The terrorists were armed with Russian weapons and trained by Russian soldiers in their particularly barbaric and cruel methods of war. That worked for him too in that he got world attention off his horrific war in the Ukraine. Hardly any press about Russian involvement in those attacks.

Putin is an evil genius and knows how to exploit human frailties and vulnerabilities for his own purposes. [/quote]

Sorry you're talking crazy crap.  Illegal immigration to the US has been booming when Putin was in grade school and it will continue to boom when he's pushing daisies. He's not omnipotent.  It's a big world out there. [/quote]

Look at the numbers for illegals immigration before 2020 and after - dramatic rise.

Links provided earlier to US intelligence and migration workers reporting dramatic increases in Russian smugglers and disinformation in central and Latin America.

Plenty of verifiable credible resources for other claims also. [/quote]

Links below related to Claims regarding Putin cultivating, training and arming Hamas over 17 years and driving the Syrian refugee crisis in EU …

[b]Essential questions about the Russia-Hamas link: The evidence and its implications[/b]

November 28, 2023
Jonathan M. Winer

Russia has maintained a relationship with Hamas for more than 17 years, since the group's leaders visited Moscow in March 2006, just weeks after taking power in the Gaza Strip. In the ensuing years, President Vladimir Putin repeatedly invited Hamas' political and military leadership back to the Russian capital.Nov 28, 2023

https://www.mei.edu/publications/essential-questions-about-russia-hamas-link-evidence-and-its-implications#:~:text=Russia%20has%20maintained%20a%20relationship,back%20to%20the%20Russian%20capital.

[b]Russia and Syria 'weaponising' refugee crisis to destabilise Europe, Nato commander claims
General Phil Breedlove claimed civilians were being deliberately bombed to drive migration to Europe[/b]
Thursday 03 March 2016

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russia-and-syria-weaponising-refugee-crisis-to-destabilise-europe-nato-commander-claims-a6909241.html

[b]Russia and Syria are indiscriminately bombing Syrian civilians to drive the refugee crisis and “weaponise migration”, a Nato commander has claimed.[/b]

General Phil Breedlove, Nato’s Supreme Allied Commander for Europe and head of the US European Command, said weapons such as barrel bombs have no military value to hit precise targets and instead serve to terrorise those living in rebel-held territories.

[b]Disinformation may be one of Russia and China’s greatest weapons[/b]
BY WILLIAM DANVERS, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR 04/05/23 07:00 AM ET

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3932031-disinformation-may-be-one-of-russia-and-chinas-greatest-weapons/amp/

The United States has just completed its second Summit on Democracy. A warning from the State Department reinforces the reality that democracy is under threat globally and that public distrust is one reason for the threat. This distrust has various components, including concern about economic and political stability, but it is also driven and amplified by autocratic governments’ use of malign influence as a weapon against democracy.

Russia, in particular, uses disinformation and malign influence as part of its offensive national security strategy. In 2013, Russia’s military chief of general staff, General Valery Gerasimov, emphasized its importance in an essay he wrote, “The role of non-military means of achieving political and strategic goals has grown and, in many cases, they have exceeded the power of force of weapons in their effectiveness.” The government of the Soviet Union used what they called active measures — the strategy for the spreading of disinformation — for decades against the United States and the West. 
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This is all the more reason for the US and EU to finally fund Ukraine fully.

F-16?  Why not F-35s?

And heavy bombers:  our B-52 fleet is aging; send all of them to Ukraine, so the Ukrainians can carpet-bomb Russian positions in occupied Ukraine?

We have slow-walked aid to Ukraine for far too long.  It is almost as if we - meaning the west - do not really want to defeat Russia.

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No one wants chaos in Russia.

Russia made a terrible decision invading Ukraine. Their 3 day Special Military Operation has turned into a two year slog that has cost them more than 320,000 troops.

Every day, there is footage of Russians dying that would topple governments elsewhere. But Russians don't care. The guys dying are from the hinterlands.

Can't use B-52s or gunships without air dominance

And Ukraine is not getting F-22s, or F-35s, and certainly not B-1s.

NATO's strategy is a slow bleed. And it's working pretty well. Russia is not a threat to anyone anymore. Their armor is gone. So too most of their artillery. There is no Airborne or Spetsnaz anymore. The Russian military is done. It's just criminals and poor men.

Big win for NATO. But no one wants anarchy in Russia. So, it's a balance.[/quote]

Russia is bleeding heavily.  They have lost thousands of tanks and pieces of equipment, and are losing more and more costly items like jets, and are seeing more and more things blowing up inside their own territory.  In just the last week I've seen reports of at least a half dozen crucial factories and supply depots in Russia fall victim to "careless smoking" or whatever "3 day operation" euphemism.  At some point, someone sensible needs to step up in Russia - whether that's other oligarchs or a peoples uprising.[/quote]

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