Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 08:57     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Because illegal immigration from the South did not exist before Putin? Because poor South Americans need extra encouragement to come to the US? Because the US hasn't been a dream for most of South America before Putin came to power? Don't be ridiculous.


No because he exploited a terrible situation and made it way way worse through spreading well documented misinformation to locals and even providing Russian human smugglers.


You're saying there aren't homegrown smugglers in Mexico and the rest of LatAm? Like the coyote industry does not exist? What information do you think the locals needed to decide to move to the U.S.? I mean is there ANYTHING about life in the US that is possibly a secret to them by now? This is not a young business you know. A bit weird to pin it on Russia since this business has been booming for decades.


No I’m saying he continued the tactics he employed to destabilize Europe by driving Syrian refugees into Europe to exacerbate an already serious situation.

And It is working - I am hearing life long democrats talk about voting for the Republican candidate due to concerns about surging illegal immigration. Putin combines driving illegal immigration into liberal democracies with misinformation that favors right wing authoritarian candidates because he knows isolating Western countries and fracturing alliances with other democracies helps Russia (and China) to further their goals for global dominance.

Russian populist misinformation helped drive Brexit and the UK is in a much weaker economic and political international position for it. He is trying to destroy NATO which would leave Western allies much more vulnerable.

He cultivated, trained and armed Hamas (in collaboration with Iran) over 17 years prior to the October 7 attack. The terrorists were armed with Russian weapons and trained by Russian soldiers in their particularly barbaric and cruel methods of war. That worked for him too in that he got world attention off his horrific war in the Ukraine. Hardly any press about Russian involvement in those attacks.

Putin is an evil genius and knows how to exploit human frailties and vulnerabilities for his own purposes.


If the western governments weren’t so rah rah about tolerance and embracing immigrants and other similar stupid agenda pieces (rainbows and baotbeooms and what not) then the misinformation wouldn’t have a leg to stand on
Sensible policies would have made misinformation a moot point


No western democracy has open borders. All have systems to place to process legal immigration and deport illegals. Well qualified and hard working legal immigrants are highly sought after in close to all thriving western democracies. All have provisions for humanitarian refugees and that makes us human. Many are not accepted on humanitarian grounds though.

What they were not well prepared for was weaponization of illegal immigration at the scale Putin and his cronies instigated through blanket bombings in Syria, illegal invasion of Ukraine and mass disinformation campaigns in central and South America and other vulnerable communities as well as providing actual Russian smugglers to increase illegal immigration to point that destabilizes democracies.

Putin has been weaponizing illegal
Immigration in US and western democracies for years now.

Managing immigration both legal and illegal is complex and important. Obama and Biden have both been deporting illegal immigrants at higher number than their Republican predecessors AND working on more rational routes for legal migration.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 05:14     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Because illegal immigration from the South did not exist before Putin? Because poor South Americans need extra encouragement to come to the US? Because the US hasn't been a dream for most of South America before Putin came to power? Don't be ridiculous.


No because he exploited a terrible situation and made it way way worse through spreading well documented misinformation to locals and even providing Russian human smugglers.


You're saying there aren't homegrown smugglers in Mexico and the rest of LatAm? Like the coyote industry does not exist? What information do you think the locals needed to decide to move to the U.S.? I mean is there ANYTHING about life in the US that is possibly a secret to them by now? This is not a young business you know. A bit weird to pin it on Russia since this business has been booming for decades.


No I’m saying he continued the tactics he employed to destabilize Europe by driving Syrian refugees into Europe to exacerbate an already serious situation.

And It is working - I am hearing life long democrats talk about voting for the Republican candidate due to concerns about surging illegal immigration. Putin combines driving illegal immigration into liberal democracies with misinformation that favors right wing authoritarian candidates because he knows isolating Western countries and fracturing alliances with other democracies helps Russia (and China) to further their goals for global dominance.

Russian populist misinformation helped drive Brexit and the UK is in a much weaker economic and political international position for it. He is trying to destroy NATO which would leave Western allies much more vulnerable.

He cultivated, trained and armed Hamas (in collaboration with Iran) over 17 years prior to the October 7 attack. The terrorists were armed with Russian weapons and trained by Russian soldiers in their particularly barbaric and cruel methods of war. That worked for him too in that he got world attention off his horrific war in the Ukraine. Hardly any press about Russian involvement in those attacks.

Putin is an evil genius and knows how to exploit human frailties and vulnerabilities for his own purposes.


If the western governments weren’t so rah rah about tolerance and embracing immigrants and other similar stupid agenda pieces (rainbows and baotbeooms and what not) then the misinformation wouldn’t have a leg to stand on
Sensible policies would have made misinformation a moot point
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 23:55     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Because illegal immigration from the South did not exist before Putin? Because poor South Americans need extra encouragement to come to the US? Because the US hasn't been a dream for most of South America before Putin came to power? Don't be ridiculous.


No because he exploited a terrible situation and made it way way worse through spreading well documented misinformation to locals and even providing Russian human smugglers.


You're saying there aren't homegrown smugglers in Mexico and the rest of LatAm? Like the coyote industry does not exist? What information do you think the locals needed to decide to move to the U.S.? I mean is there ANYTHING about life in the US that is possibly a secret to them by now? This is not a young business you know. A bit weird to pin it on Russia since this business has been booming for decades.


No I’m saying he continued the tactics he employed to destabilize Europe by driving Syrian refugees into Europe to exacerbate an already serious situation.

And It is working - I am hearing life long democrats talk about voting for the Republican candidate due to concerns about surging illegal immigration. Putin combines driving illegal immigration into liberal democracies with misinformation that favors right wing authoritarian candidates because he knows isolating Western countries and fracturing alliances with other democracies helps Russia (and China) to further their goals for global dominance.

Russian populist misinformation helped drive Brexit and the UK is in a much weaker economic and political international position for it. He is trying to destroy NATO which would leave Western allies much more vulnerable.

He cultivated, trained and armed Hamas (in collaboration with Iran) over 17 years prior to the October 7 attack. The terrorists were armed with Russian weapons and trained by Russian soldiers in their particularly barbaric and cruel methods of war. That worked for him too in that he got world attention off his horrific war in the Ukraine. Hardly any press about Russian involvement in those attacks.

Putin is an evil genius and knows how to exploit human frailties and vulnerabilities for his own purposes.


Sorry you're talking crazy crap. Illegal immigration to the US has been booming when Putin was in grade school and it will continue to boom when he's pushing daisies. He's not omnipotent. It's a big world out there.


Look at the numbers for illegals immigration before 2020 and after - dramatic rise.

Links provided earlier to US intelligence and migration workers reporting dramatic increases in Russian smugglers and disinformation in central and Latin America.


Plenty of verifiable credible resources for other claims also.


Links below related to Claims regarding Putin cultivating, training and arming Hamas over 17 years and driving the Syrian refugee crisis in EU …


Essential questions about the Russia-Hamas link: The evidence and its implications

November 28, 2023
Jonathan M. Winer

Russia has maintained a relationship with Hamas for more than 17 years, since the group's leaders visited Moscow in March 2006, just weeks after taking power in the Gaza Strip. In the ensuing years, President Vladimir Putin repeatedly invited Hamas' political and military leadership back to the Russian capital.Nov 28, 2023

https://www.mei.edu/publications/essential-questions-about-russia-hamas-link-evidence-and-its-implications#:~:text=Russia%20has%20maintained%20a%20relationship,back%20to%20the%20Russian%20capital.



Russia and Syria 'weaponising' refugee crisis to destabilise Europe, Nato commander claims
General Phil Breedlove claimed civilians were being deliberately bombed to drive migration to Europe

Thursday 03 March 2016

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russia-and-syria-weaponising-refugee-crisis-to-destabilise-europe-nato-commander-claims-a6909241.html

Russia and Syria are indiscriminately bombing Syrian civilians to drive the refugee crisis and “weaponise migration”, a Nato commander has claimed.

General Phil Breedlove, Nato’s Supreme Allied Commander for Europe and head of the US European Command, said weapons such as barrel bombs have no military value to hit precise targets and instead serve to terrorise those living in rebel-held territories.



Disinformation may be one of Russia and China’s greatest weapons
BY WILLIAM DANVERS, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR 04/05/23 07:00 AM ET

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3932031-disinformation-may-be-one-of-russia-and-chinas-greatest-weapons/amp/

The United States has just completed its second Summit on Democracy. A warning from the State Department reinforces the reality that democracy is under threat globally and that public distrust is one reason for the threat. This distrust has various components, including concern about economic and political stability, but it is also driven and amplified by autocratic governments’ use of malign influence as a weapon against democracy.

Russia, in particular, uses disinformation and malign influence as part of its offensive national security strategy. In 2013, Russia’s military chief of general staff, General Valery Gerasimov, emphasized its importance in an essay he wrote, “The role of non-military means of achieving political and strategic goals has grown and, in many cases, they have exceeded the power of force of weapons in their effectiveness.” The government of the Soviet Union used what they called active measures — the strategy for the spreading of disinformation — for decades against the United States and the West.


This is all the more reason for the US and EU to finally fund Ukraine fully.

F-16? Why not F-35s?

And heavy bombers: our B-52 fleet is aging; send all of them to Ukraine, so the Ukrainians can carpet-bomb Russian positions in occupied Ukraine?

We have slow-walked aid to Ukraine for far too long. It is almost as if we - meaning the west - do not really want to defeat Russia.





No one wants chaos in Russia.

Russia made a terrible decision invading Ukraine. Their 3 day Special Military Operation has turned into a two year slog that has cost them more than 320,000 troops.

Every day, there is footage of Russians dying that would topple governments elsewhere. But Russians don't care. The guys dying are from the hinterlands.

Can't use B-52s or gunships without air dominance

And Ukraine is not getting F-22s, or F-35s, and certainly not B-1s.

NATO's strategy is a slow bleed. And it's working pretty well. Russia is not a threat to anyone anymore. Their armor is gone. So too most of their artillery. There is no Airborne or Spetsnaz anymore. The Russian military is done. It's just criminals and poor men.

Big win for NATO. But no one wants anarchy in Russia. So, it's a balance.


Russia is bleeding heavily. They have lost thousands of tanks and pieces of equipment, and are losing more and more costly items like jets, and are seeing more and more things blowing up inside their own territory. In just the last week I've seen reports of at least a half dozen crucial factories and supply depots in Russia fall victim to "careless smoking" or whatever "3 day operation" euphemism. At some point, someone sensible needs to step up in Russia - whether that's other oligarchs or a peoples uprising.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 20:27     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Biden lost his 2nd war.

1 trillion of debt in the last 100 days on top of it .

? Putin supports Trump, not Biden.


You are wrong. Putin helped to elect Biden to destroy America. They could not invade US like they did in Ukraine, but they invaded it from south with Biden's permission.



Alternate facts Vlad


How you can deny the facts? I am an immigration attorney and we have thousands and thousands of Russian males crossed US border in the last 1.5 years applying for asylum. Why is it different when they cross the border with US illegally or when they cross the border with Ukraine illegally? Why are we telling them it is OK to come here, but it is not OK to come to Ukraine and to take Ukrainian resources?


Ok we disagree on the interpretation of these facts.

Putin has also launched a big misinformation drive in central and Latin America to encourage more vulnerable people to make the dangerous journey to the US - since trump lost the 2020 election. His intent is not to help Biden but to help Trump by destabilizing the US (Just as he did in Western Europe by blanket bombing Syria.

I don’t blame Russians who don’t want to lose their lives in this cruel and pointless war in Ukraine for trying to escape wherever they can (Many Eastern European and European countries have reported huge increases in Russian asylum seekers also).

This is not about Putin helping to elect Biden.

Biden helped organize allies in strong unified opposition to Putin’s invasion of Ukraine - so obviously Putin is not trying to help re-elect him in any way, shape or form.


OMG, Putin loves what Biden doing to US. Don't be a fool. Biden had absolutely no choice but to poor money to Ukraine.



Taxpayers pay Congress
Congress sends money to Ukraine
Ukraine "invests" money in CTX
CTX "donates" money to politicians
CTX ends up being a massive scam
Politicians get charges dropped

Figured it out, yet?

BTW, all the NGOs that are bringing people from all over the world to the US and Europe essentially are funded in much the same way.

Taxpayer money is laundered through some foreign aid scheme, or equivalent, and then given to these NGOs.

We are funding our own demise.


Absolutely no links to credible sources for
Your nonsensical claims …
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 19:33     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Biden lost his 2nd war.

1 trillion of debt in the last 100 days on top of it .

? Putin supports Trump, not Biden.


You are wrong. Putin helped to elect Biden to destroy America. They could not invade US like they did in Ukraine, but they invaded it from south with Biden's permission.



Alternate facts Vlad


How you can deny the facts? I am an immigration attorney and we have thousands and thousands of Russian males crossed US border in the last 1.5 years applying for asylum. Why is it different when they cross the border with US illegally or when they cross the border with Ukraine illegally? Why are we telling them it is OK to come here, but it is not OK to come to Ukraine and to take Ukrainian resources?


Ok we disagree on the interpretation of these facts.

Putin has also launched a big misinformation drive in central and Latin America to encourage more vulnerable people to make the dangerous journey to the US - since trump lost the 2020 election. His intent is not to help Biden but to help Trump by destabilizing the US (Just as he did in Western Europe by blanket bombing Syria.

I don’t blame Russians who don’t want to lose their lives in this cruel and pointless war in Ukraine for trying to escape wherever they can (Many Eastern European and European countries have reported huge increases in Russian asylum seekers also).

This is not about Putin helping to elect Biden.

Biden helped organize allies in strong unified opposition to Putin’s invasion of Ukraine - so obviously Putin is not trying to help re-elect him in any way, shape or form.


OMG, Putin loves what Biden doing to US. Don't be a fool. Biden had absolutely no choice but to poor money to Ukraine.



Taxpayers pay Congress
Congress sends money to Ukraine
Ukraine "invests" money in CTX
CTX "donates" money to politicians
CTX ends up being a massive scam
Politicians get charges dropped

Figured it out, yet?

BTW, all the NGOs that are bringing people from all over the world to the US and Europe essentially are funded in much the same way.

Taxpayer money is laundered through some foreign aid scheme, or equivalent, and then given to these NGOs.

We are funding our own demise.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 17:35     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because illegal immigration from the South did not exist before Putin? Because poor South Americans need extra encouragement to come to the US? Because the US hasn't been a dream for most of South America before Putin came to power? Don't be ridiculous.


No because he exploited a terrible situation and made it way way worse through spreading well documented misinformation to locals and even providing Russian human smugglers.


You're saying there aren't homegrown smugglers in Mexico and the rest of LatAm? Like the coyote industry does not exist? What information do you think the locals needed to decide to move to the U.S.? I mean is there ANYTHING about life in the US that is possibly a secret to them by now? This is not a young business you know. A bit weird to pin it on Russia since this business has been booming for decades.


No I’m saying he continued the tactics he employed to destabilize Europe by driving Syrian refugees into Europe to exacerbate an already serious situation.

And It is working - I am hearing life long democrats talk about voting for the Republican candidate due to concerns about surging illegal immigration. Putin combines driving illegal immigration into liberal democracies with misinformation that favors right wing authoritarian candidates because he knows isolating Western countries and fracturing alliances with other democracies helps Russia (and China) to further their goals for global dominance.

Russian populist misinformation helped drive Brexit and the UK is in a much weaker economic and political international position for it. He is trying to destroy NATO which would leave Western allies much more vulnerable.

He cultivated, trained and armed Hamas (in collaboration with Iran) over 17 years prior to the October 7 attack. The terrorists were armed with Russian weapons and trained by Russian soldiers in their particularly barbaric and cruel methods of war. That worked for him too in that he got world attention off his horrific war in the Ukraine. Hardly any press about Russian involvement in those attacks.

Putin is an evil genius and knows how to exploit human frailties and vulnerabilities for his own purposes.


Sorry you're talking crazy crap. Illegal immigration to the US has been booming when Putin was in grade school and it will continue to boom when he's pushing daisies. He's not omnipotent. It's a big world out there.


Look at the numbers for illegals immigration before 2020 and after - dramatic rise.

Links provided earlier to US intelligence and migration workers reporting dramatic increases in Russian smugglers and disinformation in central and Latin America.


Plenty of verifiable credible resources for other claims also.


Links below related to Claims regarding Putin cultivating, training and arming Hamas over 17 years and driving the Syrian refugee crisis in EU …


Essential questions about the Russia-Hamas link: The evidence and its implications

November 28, 2023
Jonathan M. Winer

Russia has maintained a relationship with Hamas for more than 17 years, since the group's leaders visited Moscow in March 2006, just weeks after taking power in the Gaza Strip. In the ensuing years, President Vladimir Putin repeatedly invited Hamas' political and military leadership back to the Russian capital.Nov 28, 2023

https://www.mei.edu/publications/essential-questions-about-russia-hamas-link-evidence-and-its-implications#:~:text=Russia%20has%20maintained%20a%20relationship,back%20to%20the%20Russian%20capital.



Russia and Syria 'weaponising' refugee crisis to destabilise Europe, Nato commander claims
General Phil Breedlove claimed civilians were being deliberately bombed to drive migration to Europe

Thursday 03 March 2016

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russia-and-syria-weaponising-refugee-crisis-to-destabilise-europe-nato-commander-claims-a6909241.html

Russia and Syria are indiscriminately bombing Syrian civilians to drive the refugee crisis and “weaponise migration”, a Nato commander has claimed.

General Phil Breedlove, Nato’s Supreme Allied Commander for Europe and head of the US European Command, said weapons such as barrel bombs have no military value to hit precise targets and instead serve to terrorise those living in rebel-held territories.



Disinformation may be one of Russia and China’s greatest weapons
BY WILLIAM DANVERS, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR 04/05/23 07:00 AM ET

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3932031-disinformation-may-be-one-of-russia-and-chinas-greatest-weapons/amp/

The United States has just completed its second Summit on Democracy. A warning from the State Department reinforces the reality that democracy is under threat globally and that public distrust is one reason for the threat. This distrust has various components, including concern about economic and political stability, but it is also driven and amplified by autocratic governments’ use of malign influence as a weapon against democracy.

Russia, in particular, uses disinformation and malign influence as part of its offensive national security strategy. In 2013, Russia’s military chief of general staff, General Valery Gerasimov, emphasized its importance in an essay he wrote, “The role of non-military means of achieving political and strategic goals has grown and, in many cases, they have exceeded the power of force of weapons in their effectiveness.” The government of the Soviet Union used what they called active measures — the strategy for the spreading of disinformation — for decades against the United States and the West.


This is all the more reason for the US and EU to finally fund Ukraine fully.

F-16? Why not F-35s?

And heavy bombers: our B-52 fleet is aging; send all of them to Ukraine, so the Ukrainians can carpet-bomb Russian positions in occupied Ukraine?

We have slow-walked aid to Ukraine for far too long. It is almost as if we - meaning the west - do not really want to defeat Russia.





No one wants chaos in Russia.

Russia made a terrible decision invading Ukraine. Their 3 day Special Military Operation has turned into a two year slog that has cost them more than 320,000 troops.

Every day, there is footage of Russians dying that would topple governments elsewhere. But Russians don't care. The guys dying are from the hinterlands.

Can't use B-52s or gunships without air dominance

And Ukraine is not getting F-22s, or F-35s, and certainly not B-1s.

NATO's strategy is a slow bleed. And it's working pretty well. Russia is not a threat to anyone anymore. Their armor is gone. So too most of their artillery. There is no Airborne or Spetsnaz anymore. The Russian military is done. It's just criminals and poor men.

Big win for NATO. But no one wants anarchy in Russia. So, it's a balance.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 13:58     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Isn't Biden awesome.

Or was Ukraine part of Harris' portfolio and we need to congratulate her?

Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 10:22     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:As winter proceeds, there has been an interesting observation coming from Ukrainian troops that have used both NATO and Soviet gear:

NATO gear is made for missions, and Soviet gear is made for war. NATO gear performs amazingly when its supply chain is fully intact, it can attack and disengage, and then return to base for maintenance and replenishment. When those supply chains dry up, or it can't be rotated, NATO gear is failing on the battlefield. Many of the NATO vehicles also can't seem to handle the mud and ice. There are videos of Strykers stuck in mud that isn't particularly bad. There are also rumors that the Abrams have issues with their filters, and are being withheld from the combat zone.

Soviet gear on the other hand loses far less capability when supply or maintenance is interrupted. Its more friendly to field and ad-hoc repair. Its also more suited to the climate of Ukraine with mud proving far less of a problem. It may not match NATO gear at its peak, but it seems to be more reliable in the long run.

Its interesting to see a lot of old "what-ifs" from the cold war being played out in Ukraine.



That comparison is interesting though disappointing for NATO in advance of winter - truly hope this pointless and cruel war ends soon …

Yes it is astonishing how many of the Cold War what ifs are playing out. Putin has been playing a very long game since he came to power when it superficially looked like the Cold War was no longer a great threat in the late 90s. But his world view was formed twenty years before as a KBG foreign intelligence officer for 16 years (1975-1991) during the peak of the Cold War.

Putin has been in power as president or prime minister since 1999 and has held talks with and seen four U.S. presidents leave office. He is running for president again this year for a fifth term (even though there was a constitutional limit on serving more than two terms in office) and he has removed all viable opposition.

The need for NATO and Western allies unity has never been higher.

I truly hope that Ukraine will be able to join both EU and NATO. I hope all this suffering and loss will have some important gains for them.


DP.
It is accurate that NATO gear tends to be dainty compared to Russian equipment. That is a Pentagon failure to believe that future wars will be 'clean' and 'controllable' theaters of conflict and a direct result of the 'anti-terrorist' / Low Intensity Conflict / 9-11 mentality. The A-10 is a prime example of a design that was missioned to hold ground front-lines, chews-up tanks and bunkers, built to take a beating, can fly off of roads vs runways, and can make field repairs - it's a Marine Corps K-Bar survival knife; vs the F-35 which is a Swiss Army Knife - pretty, great for picnics and yacht lunches, but snaps if you try to stab anything other than a pate roll.

Yes, Putin was KGB through-and-through. But this is also a weakness. Putin should have played Civilization, since he does not seem to understand the concept of "Cultural Victory". This short-sightedness will, I believe, be Russia's ultimate downfall. The pattern I'm seeing is pretty consistent.

Russian counter-attacks a failure..
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russians-carry-10-unsuccessful-assault-174410885.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russians-attack-most-actively-avdiivka-054728100.html
Hypersoninc missiles a fizzle..
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-us-missiles-exposed-putin-132821745.html
Key logistics disrupted..
https://www.yahoo.com/news/military-ukrainian-strike-hits-ammunition-172029297.html'Internal sabotage deep in Russian territory..
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-releases-video-burning-russian-171500557.html

The Kremlin didn't seem to understand basic math. When the war started, Ukraine had only 3.5% of Russia's territory size, but 30% of Russia's population size. Russia needs their population to maintain control over it. Russia was already (and continues to) lose territory to the Chinese, whether they realize it or not. Long term, Russia's Far East is culturally capitulating to China and well on it's way to becoming a Chinese vassal state.

“It appears Russia is on its way to long-held worst fear: becoming a weak economic dependent of China — a source of cheap raw materials”
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4358485-china-and-russia-a-no-limits-partnership-with-firm-limits/

The Chinese also already see Putin as a weak leader, with the danger that the "no bounds" relationship could prove a liability for Xi if it continues to drag down the Chinese economy. Russia is temporarily using China to launder Rubles at China's expense. But I think Xi is playing the long-term game and hopes to target Russian raw materials and oil.

"The Russian prime minister, who is now on a two-day visit to Beijing following his previous trip to China in May this year, agreed with Chinese Premier Li Qiang on Tuesday to enhance bilateral economic ties and boost energy cooperation, according to the Chinese ministry."
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/China-s-Xi-Russian-PM-agree-to-expand-economic-cooperation

It's a bad deal for the Russian Government, who's used to dictating terms. But, using a Chinese saying, the Russians "have no eyes" (e.g. they don't see the hidden strength of who they're dealing with). Tethered to Beijing means being subject to their will. There is only one silver lining from the Russian standpoint.

"The infrastructure in Russia’s far east is so underdeveloped and degraded that the PRC has made substantial investments to get access to the resources it wants. By most accounts, those investments are not paying off."
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4358485-china-and-russia-a-no-limits-partnership-with-firm-limits/

I believe China would need to undertake a massive, large-scale rail infrastructure project. However, once completed, long-term this will culturally transform Russia's Far East. Ex. It will then be easier to travel to Beijing than Moscow. I also believe China would see their infrastructure investment as theirs, setting up the stage for confrontation between the two superpowers. Remember that if Russia ever loses control over the Far East (ex. through rebellion, governmental collapse, etc.), then like Khazakstan, those areas will fall under Chinese influence. China would be able to exert massive influence on how those natural resources are consumed since they would control the infrastructure to move it.

Although this is far beyond the timeline of the conflict with Ukraine, Ukraine will ironically accellerate the timeline that conflict between Russia and China will occur.


Thanks PP

This is extremely interesting and well resourced. I thought I was OK at making connections and big picture thinking, but you leave me in the dust.

I do think China is way more principled and rational than Russia under Putin. That is a low bar I know but it is interesting that this formerly rock solid alliance is crumbling under the surface.

I hope Ukraine wins it much deserved freedom from Russia’s aggressive invasion and is in a better position long term eventually.

Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 10:18     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because illegal immigration from the South did not exist before Putin? Because poor South Americans need extra encouragement to come to the US? Because the US hasn't been a dream for most of South America before Putin came to power? Don't be ridiculous.


No because he exploited a terrible situation and made it way way worse through spreading well documented misinformation to locals and even providing Russian human smugglers.


You're saying there aren't homegrown smugglers in Mexico and the rest of LatAm? Like the coyote industry does not exist? What information do you think the locals needed to decide to move to the U.S.? I mean is there ANYTHING about life in the US that is possibly a secret to them by now? This is not a young business you know. A bit weird to pin it on Russia since this business has been booming for decades.


No I’m saying he continued the tactics he employed to destabilize Europe by driving Syrian refugees into Europe to exacerbate an already serious situation.

And It is working - I am hearing life long democrats talk about voting for the Republican candidate due to concerns about surging illegal immigration. Putin combines driving illegal immigration into liberal democracies with misinformation that favors right wing authoritarian candidates because he knows isolating Western countries and fracturing alliances with other democracies helps Russia (and China) to further their goals for global dominance.

Russian populist misinformation helped drive Brexit and the UK is in a much weaker economic and political international position for it. He is trying to destroy NATO which would leave Western allies much more vulnerable.

He cultivated, trained and armed Hamas (in collaboration with Iran) over 17 years prior to the October 7 attack. The terrorists were armed with Russian weapons and trained by Russian soldiers in their particularly barbaric and cruel methods of war. That worked for him too in that he got world attention off his horrific war in the Ukraine. Hardly any press about Russian involvement in those attacks.

Putin is an evil genius and knows how to exploit human frailties and vulnerabilities for his own purposes.


Sorry you're talking crazy crap. Illegal immigration to the US has been booming when Putin was in grade school and it will continue to boom when he's pushing daisies. He's not omnipotent. It's a big world out there.


Look at the numbers for illegals immigration before 2020 and after - dramatic rise.

Links provided earlier to US intelligence and migration workers reporting dramatic increases in Russian smugglers and disinformation in central and Latin America.


Plenty of verifiable credible resources for other claims also.


Links below related to Claims regarding Putin cultivating, training and arming Hamas over 17 years and driving the Syrian refugee crisis in EU …


Essential questions about the Russia-Hamas link: The evidence and its implications

November 28, 2023
Jonathan M. Winer

Russia has maintained a relationship with Hamas for more than 17 years, since the group's leaders visited Moscow in March 2006, just weeks after taking power in the Gaza Strip. In the ensuing years, President Vladimir Putin repeatedly invited Hamas' political and military leadership back to the Russian capital.Nov 28, 2023

https://www.mei.edu/publications/essential-questions-about-russia-hamas-link-evidence-and-its-implications#:~:text=Russia%20has%20maintained%20a%20relationship,back%20to%20the%20Russian%20capital.



Russia and Syria 'weaponising' refugee crisis to destabilise Europe, Nato commander claims
General Phil Breedlove claimed civilians were being deliberately bombed to drive migration to Europe

Thursday 03 March 2016

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russia-and-syria-weaponising-refugee-crisis-to-destabilise-europe-nato-commander-claims-a6909241.html

Russia and Syria are indiscriminately bombing Syrian civilians to drive the refugee crisis and “weaponise migration”, a Nato commander has claimed.

General Phil Breedlove, Nato’s Supreme Allied Commander for Europe and head of the US European Command, said weapons such as barrel bombs have no military value to hit precise targets and instead serve to terrorise those living in rebel-held territories.



Disinformation may be one of Russia and China’s greatest weapons
BY WILLIAM DANVERS, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR 04/05/23 07:00 AM ET

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3932031-disinformation-may-be-one-of-russia-and-chinas-greatest-weapons/amp/

The United States has just completed its second Summit on Democracy. A warning from the State Department reinforces the reality that democracy is under threat globally and that public distrust is one reason for the threat. This distrust has various components, including concern about economic and political stability, but it is also driven and amplified by autocratic governments’ use of malign influence as a weapon against democracy.

Russia, in particular, uses disinformation and malign influence as part of its offensive national security strategy. In 2013, Russia’s military chief of general staff, General Valery Gerasimov, emphasized its importance in an essay he wrote, “The role of non-military means of achieving political and strategic goals has grown and, in many cases, they have exceeded the power of force of weapons in their effectiveness.” The government of the Soviet Union used what they called active measures — the strategy for the spreading of disinformation — for decades against the United States and the West.


This is all the more reason for the US and EU to finally fund Ukraine fully.

F-16? Why not F-35s?

And heavy bombers: our B-52 fleet is aging; send all of them to Ukraine, so the Ukrainians can carpet-bomb Russian positions in occupied Ukraine?

We have slow-walked aid to Ukraine for far too long. It is almost as if we - meaning the west - do not really want to defeat Russia.



I much prefer diplomacy and restraint to war but in this case I agree with you. Too many civilian lives and infrastructure have been lost already. Letting it linger further outs Ukraine at further risk of losing more in compromises with that insane war criminal.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 09:37     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because illegal immigration from the South did not exist before Putin? Because poor South Americans need extra encouragement to come to the US? Because the US hasn't been a dream for most of South America before Putin came to power? Don't be ridiculous.


No because he exploited a terrible situation and made it way way worse through spreading well documented misinformation to locals and even providing Russian human smugglers.


You're saying there aren't homegrown smugglers in Mexico and the rest of LatAm? Like the coyote industry does not exist? What information do you think the locals needed to decide to move to the U.S.? I mean is there ANYTHING about life in the US that is possibly a secret to them by now? This is not a young business you know. A bit weird to pin it on Russia since this business has been booming for decades.


No I’m saying he continued the tactics he employed to destabilize Europe by driving Syrian refugees into Europe to exacerbate an already serious situation.

And It is working - I am hearing life long democrats talk about voting for the Republican candidate due to concerns about surging illegal immigration. Putin combines driving illegal immigration into liberal democracies with misinformation that favors right wing authoritarian candidates because he knows isolating Western countries and fracturing alliances with other democracies helps Russia (and China) to further their goals for global dominance.

Russian populist misinformation helped drive Brexit and the UK is in a much weaker economic and political international position for it. He is trying to destroy NATO which would leave Western allies much more vulnerable.

He cultivated, trained and armed Hamas (in collaboration with Iran) over 17 years prior to the October 7 attack. The terrorists were armed with Russian weapons and trained by Russian soldiers in their particularly barbaric and cruel methods of war. That worked for him too in that he got world attention off his horrific war in the Ukraine. Hardly any press about Russian involvement in those attacks.

Putin is an evil genius and knows how to exploit human frailties and vulnerabilities for his own purposes.


Sorry you're talking crazy crap. Illegal immigration to the US has been booming when Putin was in grade school and it will continue to boom when he's pushing daisies. He's not omnipotent. It's a big world out there.


Look at the numbers for illegals immigration before 2020 and after - dramatic rise.

Links provided earlier to US intelligence and migration workers reporting dramatic increases in Russian smugglers and disinformation in central and Latin America.


Plenty of verifiable credible resources for other claims also.


Links below related to Claims regarding Putin cultivating, training and arming Hamas over 17 years and driving the Syrian refugee crisis in EU …


Essential questions about the Russia-Hamas link: The evidence and its implications

November 28, 2023
Jonathan M. Winer

Russia has maintained a relationship with Hamas for more than 17 years, since the group's leaders visited Moscow in March 2006, just weeks after taking power in the Gaza Strip. In the ensuing years, President Vladimir Putin repeatedly invited Hamas' political and military leadership back to the Russian capital.Nov 28, 2023

https://www.mei.edu/publications/essential-questions-about-russia-hamas-link-evidence-and-its-implications#:~:text=Russia%20has%20maintained%20a%20relationship,back%20to%20the%20Russian%20capital.



Russia and Syria 'weaponising' refugee crisis to destabilise Europe, Nato commander claims
General Phil Breedlove claimed civilians were being deliberately bombed to drive migration to Europe

Thursday 03 March 2016

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russia-and-syria-weaponising-refugee-crisis-to-destabilise-europe-nato-commander-claims-a6909241.html

Russia and Syria are indiscriminately bombing Syrian civilians to drive the refugee crisis and “weaponise migration”, a Nato commander has claimed.

General Phil Breedlove, Nato’s Supreme Allied Commander for Europe and head of the US European Command, said weapons such as barrel bombs have no military value to hit precise targets and instead serve to terrorise those living in rebel-held territories.



Disinformation may be one of Russia and China’s greatest weapons
BY WILLIAM DANVERS, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR 04/05/23 07:00 AM ET

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3932031-disinformation-may-be-one-of-russia-and-chinas-greatest-weapons/amp/

The United States has just completed its second Summit on Democracy. A warning from the State Department reinforces the reality that democracy is under threat globally and that public distrust is one reason for the threat. This distrust has various components, including concern about economic and political stability, but it is also driven and amplified by autocratic governments’ use of malign influence as a weapon against democracy.

Russia, in particular, uses disinformation and malign influence as part of its offensive national security strategy. In 2013, Russia’s military chief of general staff, General Valery Gerasimov, emphasized its importance in an essay he wrote, “The role of non-military means of achieving political and strategic goals has grown and, in many cases, they have exceeded the power of force of weapons in their effectiveness.” The government of the Soviet Union used what they called active measures — the strategy for the spreading of disinformation — for decades against the United States and the West.


This is all the more reason for the US and EU to finally fund Ukraine fully.

F-16? Why not F-35s?

And heavy bombers: our B-52 fleet is aging; send all of them to Ukraine, so the Ukrainians can carpet-bomb Russian positions in occupied Ukraine?

We have slow-walked aid to Ukraine for far too long. It is almost as if we - meaning the west - do not really want to defeat Russia.

Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 09:19     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

So the growing support of Hamas in US indicates the growing support of Russia. And guess who in US support these people?
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 07:59     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As winter proceeds, there has been an interesting observation coming from Ukrainian troops that have used both NATO and Soviet gear:

NATO gear is made for missions, and Soviet gear is made for war. NATO gear performs amazingly when its supply chain is fully intact, it can attack and disengage, and then return to base for maintenance and replenishment. When those supply chains dry up, or it can't be rotated, NATO gear is failing on the battlefield. Many of the NATO vehicles also can't seem to handle the mud and ice. There are videos of Strykers stuck in mud that isn't particularly bad. There are also rumors that the Abrams have issues with their filters, and are being withheld from the combat zone.

Soviet gear on the other hand loses far less capability when supply or maintenance is interrupted. Its more friendly to field and ad-hoc repair. Its also more suited to the climate of Ukraine with mud proving far less of a problem. It may not match NATO gear at its peak, but it seems to be more reliable in the long run.

Its interesting to see a lot of old "what-ifs" from the cold war being played out in Ukraine.



That comparison is interesting though disappointing for NATO in advance of winter - truly hope this pointless and cruel war ends soon …

Yes it is astonishing how many of the Cold War what ifs are playing out. Putin has been playing a very long game since he came to power when it superficially looked like the Cold War was no longer a great threat in the late 90s. But his world view was formed twenty years before as a KBG foreign intelligence officer for 16 years (1975-1991) during the peak of the Cold War.

Putin has been in power as president or prime minister since 1999 and has held talks with and seen four U.S. presidents leave office. He is running for president again this year for a fifth term (even though there was a constitutional limit on serving more than two terms in office) and he has removed all viable opposition.

The need for NATO and Western allies unity has never been higher.

I truly hope that Ukraine will be able to join both EU and NATO. I hope all this suffering and loss will have some important gains for them.


DP.
It is accurate that NATO gear tends to be dainty compared to Russian equipment. That is a Pentagon failure to believe that future wars will be 'clean' and 'controllable' theaters of conflict and a direct result of the 'anti-terrorist' / Low Intensity Conflict / 9-11 mentality. The A-10 is a prime example of a design that was missioned to hold ground front-lines, chews-up tanks and bunkers, built to take a beating, can fly off of roads vs runways, and can make field repairs - it's a Marine Corps K-Bar survival knife; vs the F-35 which is a Swiss Army Knife - pretty, great for picnics and yacht lunches, but snaps if you try to stab anything other than a pate roll.

Yes, Putin was KGB through-and-through. But this is also a weakness. Putin should have played Civilization, since he does not seem to understand the concept of "Cultural Victory". This short-sightedness will, I believe, be Russia's ultimate downfall. The pattern I'm seeing is pretty consistent.

Russian counter-attacks a failure..
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russians-carry-10-unsuccessful-assault-174410885.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russians-attack-most-actively-avdiivka-054728100.html
Hypersoninc missiles a fizzle..
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-us-missiles-exposed-putin-132821745.html
Key logistics disrupted..
https://www.yahoo.com/news/military-ukrainian-strike-hits-ammunition-172029297.html'Internal sabotage deep in Russian territory..
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-releases-video-burning-russian-171500557.html

The Kremlin didn't seem to understand basic math. When the war started, Ukraine had only 3.5% of Russia's territory size, but 30% of Russia's population size. Russia needs their population to maintain control over it. Russia was already (and continues to) lose territory to the Chinese, whether they realize it or not. Long term, Russia's Far East is culturally capitulating to China and well on it's way to becoming a Chinese vassal state.

“It appears Russia is on its way to long-held worst fear: becoming a weak economic dependent of China — a source of cheap raw materials”
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4358485-china-and-russia-a-no-limits-partnership-with-firm-limits/

The Chinese also already see Putin as a weak leader, with the danger that the "no bounds" relationship could prove a liability for Xi if it continues to drag down the Chinese economy. Russia is temporarily using China to launder Rubles at China's expense. But I think Xi is playing the long-term game and hopes to target Russian raw materials and oil.

"The Russian prime minister, who is now on a two-day visit to Beijing following his previous trip to China in May this year, agreed with Chinese Premier Li Qiang on Tuesday to enhance bilateral economic ties and boost energy cooperation, according to the Chinese ministry."
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/China-s-Xi-Russian-PM-agree-to-expand-economic-cooperation

It's a bad deal for the Russian Government, who's used to dictating terms. But, using a Chinese saying, the Russians "have no eyes" (e.g. they don't see the hidden strength of who they're dealing with). Tethered to Beijing means being subject to their will. There is only one silver lining from the Russian standpoint.

"The infrastructure in Russia’s far east is so underdeveloped and degraded that the PRC has made substantial investments to get access to the resources it wants. By most accounts, those investments are not paying off."
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4358485-china-and-russia-a-no-limits-partnership-with-firm-limits/

I believe China would need to undertake a massive, large-scale rail infrastructure project. However, once completed, long-term this will culturally transform Russia's Far East. Ex. It will then be easier to travel to Beijing than Moscow. I also believe China would see their infrastructure investment as theirs, setting up the stage for confrontation between the two superpowers. Remember that if Russia ever loses control over the Far East (ex. through rebellion, governmental collapse, etc.), then like Khazakstan, those areas will fall under Chinese influence. China would be able to exert massive influence on how those natural resources are consumed since they would control the infrastructure to move it.

Although this is far beyond the timeline of the conflict with Ukraine, Ukraine will ironically accellerate the timeline that conflict between Russia and China will occur.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2024 15:29     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:As winter proceeds, there has been an interesting observation coming from Ukrainian troops that have used both NATO and Soviet gear:

NATO gear is made for missions, and Soviet gear is made for war. NATO gear performs amazingly when its supply chain is fully intact, it can attack and disengage, and then return to base for maintenance and replenishment. When those supply chains dry up, or it can't be rotated, NATO gear is failing on the battlefield. Many of the NATO vehicles also can't seem to handle the mud and ice. There are videos of Strykers stuck in mud that isn't particularly bad. There are also rumors that the Abrams have issues with their filters, and are being withheld from the combat zone.

Soviet gear on the other hand loses far less capability when supply or maintenance is interrupted. Its more friendly to field and ad-hoc repair. Its also more suited to the climate of Ukraine with mud proving far less of a problem. It may not match NATO gear at its peak, but it seems to be more reliable in the long run.

Its interesting to see a lot of old "what-ifs" from the cold war being played out in Ukraine.



That comparison is interesting though disappointing for NATO in advance of winter - truly hope this pointless and cruel war ends soon …

Yes it is astonishing how many of the Cold War what ifs are playing out. Putin has been playing a very long game since he came to power when it superficially looked like the Cold War was no longer a great threat in the late 90s. But his world view was formed twenty years before as a KBG foreign intelligence officer for 16 years (1975-1991) during the peak of the Cold War.

Putin has been in power as president or prime minister since 1999 and has held talks with and seen four U.S. presidents leave office. He is running for president again this year for a fifth term (even though there was a constitutional limit on serving more than two terms in office) and he has removed all viable opposition.

The need for NATO and Western allies unity has never been higher.

I truly hope that Ukraine will be able to join both EU and NATO. I hope all this suffering and loss will have some important gains for them.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2024 13:55     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

As winter proceeds, there has been an interesting observation coming from Ukrainian troops that have used both NATO and Soviet gear:

NATO gear is made for missions, and Soviet gear is made for war. NATO gear performs amazingly when its supply chain is fully intact, it can attack and disengage, and then return to base for maintenance and replenishment. When those supply chains dry up, or it can't be rotated, NATO gear is failing on the battlefield. Many of the NATO vehicles also can't seem to handle the mud and ice. There are videos of Strykers stuck in mud that isn't particularly bad. There are also rumors that the Abrams have issues with their filters, and are being withheld from the combat zone.

Soviet gear on the other hand loses far less capability when supply or maintenance is interrupted. Its more friendly to field and ad-hoc repair. Its also more suited to the climate of Ukraine with mud proving far less of a problem. It may not match NATO gear at its peak, but it seems to be more reliable in the long run.

Its interesting to see a lot of old "what-ifs" from the cold war being played out in Ukraine.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2024 13:35     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because illegal immigration from the South did not exist before Putin? Because poor South Americans need extra encouragement to come to the US? Because the US hasn't been a dream for most of South America before Putin came to power? Don't be ridiculous.


No because he exploited a terrible situation and made it way way worse through spreading well documented misinformation to locals and even providing Russian human smugglers.


You're saying there aren't homegrown smugglers in Mexico and the rest of LatAm? Like the coyote industry does not exist? What information do you think the locals needed to decide to move to the U.S.? I mean is there ANYTHING about life in the US that is possibly a secret to them by now? This is not a young business you know. A bit weird to pin it on Russia since this business has been booming for decades.


No I’m saying he continued the tactics he employed to destabilize Europe by driving Syrian refugees into Europe to exacerbate an already serious situation.

And It is working - I am hearing life long democrats talk about voting for the Republican candidate due to concerns about surging illegal immigration. Putin combines driving illegal immigration into liberal democracies with misinformation that favors right wing authoritarian candidates because he knows isolating Western countries and fracturing alliances with other democracies helps Russia (and China) to further their goals for global dominance.

Russian populist misinformation helped drive Brexit and the UK is in a much weaker economic and political international position for it. He is trying to destroy NATO which would leave Western allies much more vulnerable.

He cultivated, trained and armed Hamas (in collaboration with Iran) over 17 years prior to the October 7 attack. The terrorists were armed with Russian weapons and trained by Russian soldiers in their particularly barbaric and cruel methods of war. That worked for him too in that he got world attention off his horrific war in the Ukraine. Hardly any press about Russian involvement in those attacks.

Putin is an evil genius and knows how to exploit human frailties and vulnerabilities for his own purposes.


Sorry you're talking crazy crap. Illegal immigration to the US has been booming when Putin was in grade school and it will continue to boom when he's pushing daisies. He's not omnipotent. It's a big world out there.


Look at the numbers for illegals immigration before 2020 and after - dramatic rise.

Links provided earlier to US intelligence and migration workers reporting dramatic increases in Russian smugglers and disinformation in central and Latin America.


Plenty of verifiable credible resources for other claims also.


Links below related to Claims regarding Putin cultivating, training and arming Hamas over 17 years and driving the Syrian refugee crisis in EU …


Essential questions about the Russia-Hamas link: The evidence and its implications

November 28, 2023
Jonathan M. Winer

Russia has maintained a relationship with Hamas for more than 17 years, since the group's leaders visited Moscow in March 2006, just weeks after taking power in the Gaza Strip. In the ensuing years, President Vladimir Putin repeatedly invited Hamas' political and military leadership back to the Russian capital.Nov 28, 2023

https://www.mei.edu/publications/essential-questions-about-russia-hamas-link-evidence-and-its-implications#:~:text=Russia%20has%20maintained%20a%20relationship,back%20to%20the%20Russian%20capital.



Russia and Syria 'weaponising' refugee crisis to destabilise Europe, Nato commander claims
General Phil Breedlove claimed civilians were being deliberately bombed to drive migration to Europe

Thursday 03 March 2016

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russia-and-syria-weaponising-refugee-crisis-to-destabilise-europe-nato-commander-claims-a6909241.html

Russia and Syria are indiscriminately bombing Syrian civilians to drive the refugee crisis and “weaponise migration”, a Nato commander has claimed.

General Phil Breedlove, Nato’s Supreme Allied Commander for Europe and head of the US European Command, said weapons such as barrel bombs have no military value to hit precise targets and instead serve to terrorise those living in rebel-held territories.



Disinformation may be one of Russia and China’s greatest weapons
BY WILLIAM DANVERS, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR 04/05/23 07:00 AM ET

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3932031-disinformation-may-be-one-of-russia-and-chinas-greatest-weapons/amp/

The United States has just completed its second Summit on Democracy. A warning from the State Department reinforces the reality that democracy is under threat globally and that public distrust is one reason for the threat. This distrust has various components, including concern about economic and political stability, but it is also driven and amplified by autocratic governments’ use of malign influence as a weapon against democracy.

Russia, in particular, uses disinformation and malign influence as part of its offensive national security strategy. In 2013, Russia’s military chief of general staff, General Valery Gerasimov, emphasized its importance in an essay he wrote, “The role of non-military means of achieving political and strategic goals has grown and, in many cases, they have exceeded the power of force of weapons in their effectiveness.” The government of the Soviet Union used what they called active measures — the strategy for the spreading of disinformation — for decades against the United States and the West.


Agree - Russia and China are aggressively funding and running disinformation ops all around the world.



https://link.springer.com/article/10.1365/s43439-020-00010-7