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[quote=Anonymous]OK. Let's summarize to make it clear that French bigotry belongs in the list of explanations, but is not the entire list.

1. French bigotry and racism. 
2. Lack of constructive Muslim engagement with the political system to remedy said bigotry and racism.
3. Twisted and murderous version of Islam.
4. High unemployment among all French youth, but especially among Muslims = boredom and poverty
5. Lack of attractive alternatives to radical Islam.
6. Lack of broad Muslim dialogue about things like images,  apostasy, and other things that contributed to CH.. This is the Reformation issue and yes, I'm going there. Sure, plenty of Muslims have said in recent days that it's not OK to kill for these things. But that's not the same thing as asking whether the ban on images is really Islam, or it they has a place in the 21st century. The conversation is taking place seems confined to theologians with years of schooling and fluent Arabic, because these are traditionally the men who decide such theological issues, but these guys by the nature of their training and jobs are very conservative.  
6. Muslim victimhood mentality that looks to others to change themselves. Hello, Muslima! You're  a broken record of "Islam is peaceful, these guys weren't real Muslims, but anyway they were provoked by bigotry." I haven't seen a single call from Muslima, not one single call from you, for Muslims themselves to do anything themselves. Like, for example, step up efforts to stop the radicalization of Muslim youth, or have a larger dialogue about apostasy and other rules that were of concern in the CH case, or for massive Muslim passive resistence efforts such as marches against bigotry and racism. I can't speak for others, but I suspect this is why others are so frustrated with you.

So Jeff, I know you'll find a new way to say that Muslima is right and I'm wrong, even if it's just accusing me again of non-existent contradictions. I'm starting to think you're really full of it. Have at it.[/quote]

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