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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hijabs doesn't bother me.

Niqabs actually really bother me. I feel that its an aggressive political statement in some ways seeing as its quite extreme to hide your face in that way.

After all as a society, we place a lot of value in facial expressions and non-verbal cues. I would not feel especially encouraged to start a conversation with someone in a niqab. Its sort of a Do Not Disturb sign.[/quote]

+1. The niqab is a patriarchal cultural relic turned into a political statement. Some dispute that the Quran requires a woman to cover her hair. [/quote]
Don't be ridiculous. It's a cultural relic for sure, but that culture is stemmed in class, not patriarchy.  Rich urban married women used to cover their faces to protect them from the sun and most importantly, show that they don't have to work.  Women working the fields never cover their faces.  You pretty much couldn't work with your face covered, and upperclass women wore them to show they didn't have to. [/quote]

This is incorrect, though nicely spun.

Full on niqab and burka came about as a necessity to prevent wives and women from being stolen.  It was (and still is in in some parts) common practice in the Islamic world for the Caliphs and Emirs to steal the wives of others whenever and however wanted. How do you think those harems got so filled with hundreds of women?  Did they apply for the position? LOL.

The triple talaq aided in this since it was easy to force or torture the husband into a super simple divorce if necessary.

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What an idiot. Where do you get your information from, A Thousand and One Nights?

First, no, the niqab did not come about to prevent wife-stealing. Get into your thick head that you cannot kidnap and enslave other Muslims.  So while slavery and human trade, primarily in women, was commonplace in the Islamic world, none of these women were Muslim as you cannot enslave other Muslims.

Second, harems were filled with non-Muslim women captured during wars.  The triple talaq provision does not apply to prisoners of war because the act of capture invalidates marriage, and because only Muslims divorce via talaq.  Captured women were non-Muslim, and their divorce practices were different.

Finally, triple talaq is a non-Muslim illusion since a single talaq suffices for divorce. There is no need for a triple utterance.
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