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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Undocumented workers are here for the same reason every single one of us has $600 phone in their pocket that would cost three times as much if it were made in the US.  We like cheap stuff. It raises our standard of living.

As long as we are shipping products and capital across borders, people should be (relatively) free to move for better opportunities as well.[/quote]

It raises WHOSE standard of living?  Yours? Assuming you are already middle class which it sounds like you are.  Because American unskilled uneducated workers aren't the ones buying the cheap crap that raises YOUR standard of living.  They cant afford it.  (And it is all crap!) Maybe what our consumerist greedy country needs is less "cheap" stuff that we dispose of quickly anyway and more better paying jobs to raise the standard of living for ALL AMERICANS?

And quit relying on what is essentially slave labor from under the table illegal workers who are willing to work for pennies and send most of it back home to their countries anyway doing very little for our economy while draining us of resources.   Immigration is a must but illegal immigration only benifits the corporations with cheap slave labor and greedy consumerist Americans that want their cheap crap no matter whose back it breaks.

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PP, here.  Yellow Nectarines are $1.99/lb at Whole Foods this week.  How much would the be if native born Americans were picking them?

I would prefer a much more flexible immigration system, so everyone who comes here would be documented.[/quote]

This cost has to be offset by the costs associated with our support of illegals healthcare (ER rooms) which is shared, they failure of them to pay taxes at a high participation rate, the strain on the school system (I live in AZ and we have to have dedicated English language tutors in all elementary schools), etc.   Quite frankly I would be fine with a guest worker program where migrants who worked in the agriculture industry were carefully screened, documented, and tracked on a come and go basis (seasonal).    This type of program could be implemented now, forcing those without such documentation to leave due to the inability to work.

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