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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It is much better to be the cool athlete than the "black geek"

Sorry but that is how most Aftican American boys see it. Why leave their friends to go to harder classes with snowflakes when the other classes with my friends are easier? [/quote]

Is it really as simple as that now? Because when I was in school back in the 90s my mother had to fight tooth and nail with my school's administration to get me placed on the honors/advanced track (there was no testing, it was all teacher recommendation), where yes I was one of the only AA faces.[/quote]

There are a lot of other people in various races that have to fight for an advanced track too. By parents and students alike.  It isn't  just a given. You have to get straight A's, do extra credit. Be involved with teachers, interact in class, take initiative, do 100% of HW, etc...   Asian families start with this at birth. Why do black people think every hardship is because of their race? When is it going to end.  [/quote]

Look, I know you have an agenda, but your projecting is tiresome - when is that going to end?

First, I was addressing the post that African American children simply choose not to enter an advanced track.  Second, I don't think any child should be excluded from educational opportunities simply because they and/or their parents aren't savvy enough to play a political game.  Yes, that's how life is in the adult world, but do we really have to start as early as 3rd grade?[/quote]

It isn't a political agenda.  You have to work hard.  Go to preschool starting at 2, get workbooks at home, help them to read.  Most kids can read by age 3.  Stay in contact with teacher's about their needs.  Go to more than one 10 minute conference and find out the weaknesses and address them at home.  Volunteer in the class and see the social dynamics and if your child is focused or bored. Offer advanced work if your child is bored.  Go to the library at least once a week.  We went today.  I would say 80% of the kids in the library were Asian. Avoid video games and screen time.  Offer arts n crafts and books.  Talk about nature.   It isn't a political agenda.  It is called being a parent.  So many parents are just ignorant and send them to school and expect the teacher to do ALL of the raising and teaching and then wonder why their kids aren't the smartest or even failing.  It is public school.  If parents weren't involved in helping their kids, it would really show how little schools truly teach. You have to be the teacher.  Parents are teachers too.

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Although there are several inaccuracies in your post, I agree with some of it.  What you don't seem to acknowledge is that some of what you call being a parent[b] takes time and resources that not every person is fortunate to have. [/b] [/quote]

I'm not the PP, but that is a socioeconomic issue and NOT a race issue.  Don't assume the two go hand in hand.  [/quote]

I disagree. I think it is an attitude issue. What resources do middle income families have that lower SES don't ?  Same school, same county.  This county is full of resources, libraries, free programs and more. It is the attitude at home. What you instill in your kids. If you are complaining, show lack of work ethic, want to spend free time watching TV, the kids will mimic that. Many Asian families come here speaking little English with very little money. Multiple families living under one roof when they first enter the country. Same as Hispanics. So what is the difference?  Why are Asians always out of ESOL quicker, surpassing AA and Caucasian test scores quickly and not living generation to generation in poverty?   It isn't race. It isn't SES. It is parenting. [/quote]

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