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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Stay away from drugs[/b]. That's a very strong and very personal piece of advise. Psycho-pharmaceutical drugs do more harm than good. If you're on the fence about this I recommend watching "Psychiatry - An industry of death". Therapy is good. Loads of good therapists out there. Lots of places to get help. But stay away from the drugs. And stay away from hospitalization during which you and/or your son do not have control over whether he has to take drugs or not and generally over what will happen to him there.

Ask him under which circumstances he might accept help, ask him what he can think of that he might need right now. I agree to not leave him alone - but do talk to him about it. Respect him deeply right now. Explain to him what you are doing and why. Do not ever go over his head if you can at all avoid it. The "He will hate you for a short while and then everything will be peachy" is a blanket statement that can end very badly.[/quote]

This is the worst advice I have seen on DCUM, next to not vaxing your kids.  As someone who was suicidal a while ago, drugs are what got me out of it.  I still take Zoloft today.   And it is generic....[/quote]

Sure, in an absolute emergency, or when long time therapy doesn't help drugs can be a short-term stabilizing method that works. But for a teenager with very obvious reasons for the way he feels and no previous history of having tried therapy but nothing helped so now we try medication...no, drugs are not the way to go.[/quote]

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. This is the kind of advice that kills teens, plain and simple.[/quote]

I agree, dangerous advice from someone with an anti drug agenda.  [/quote]

You have NO idea what my agenda is. It might help to ask instead of blindly judging. The teenager in question is talking to his Mom. He does not want to be admitted. He has opened up. The reasons for his depression are known. All of this means that therapy is the first thing to try. Not drugging him. Watching him closely, staying in contact and getting professional help is what he needs - not immediate treatment with pharmaceutical drugs. It's nothing but sad how quickly people with no proper education are to tell OP that what her son needs is medication. Or a psych ward. You judge ME for telling her not to turn to drugs first - yet you have no more knowledge than me and tell her to trust pharmaceutical drugs...okay...

Pharmaceutical drugs are not proven to cure any mental diseases. None of them have ever cured a patient. Some of them sometimes help with some of the symptoms - but at the same time they are proven to do damage. Suicidal thoughts and tendencies as well as actual suicide are proven to be caused by anti depressants for example. That's not something I am making up. Drugs are chemistry messing with people's brains. That is not ever a good thing. I am glad OP seems to have some knowledge of how psychopharmacy really works. It sounds like that's exactly why she is looking for OTHER advice.

So OP. Talking to your son is the best thing you can do right now. Take him seriously, both with him saying he wants to end his life AS WELL as his opinions about therapy, drugs, psych wards etc. Therapy against somebody's will never works. So he needs to be on board with whatever you are going to do. Maybe talking to you is enough. Maybe he needs to find the right therapist. Maybe a support group with kids his age might be the right thing for him. Maybe he needs distraction from the things that depress him. Sports, hobbies etc. I think the most important thing for you personally might be to talk to a therapist yourself and get proper advice there because this board is anonymous strangers...you don't know what anyone on here really knows or doesn't know. Best to be on the safe side and get professional help.[/quote]

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