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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My son is 9 and was the class clown too.  After he started taking meds in September, he said that so many kids told him that he wasn't annoying anymore.  He said he didn't know he was annoying before then since everyone laughed when he goofed off.  I've taught 3rd grade and by then, the kids have been around each other since K and they have grown tired of the class clowns.  If the teacher is exhausted by his behavior, imagine how his classmates feel.  By next year, the kids will start avoiding him and won't include him. [b] If you want to wait and watch it happen, don't complain about it after the fact.[/b][/quote]

What a jerky thing to say to a parent who is trying to figure out what is best for her kid.[/quote]

Is she?  Is she trying to figure out what is best for her kid?  All I see is complaints about the teacher.  I don't see her trying to figure out anything.[/quote]

So if the situation deteriorates for her child then she should just shut her mouth "after teh fact" because, hey, DCUM warned her! Heartless.[/quote]

Pretty much.  Look, we are trying to be helpful here because we have already walked this path and see the trajectory this child is on.  It's not heartless -- it's called being truthful and facing reality.  The child is already exhibiting these "class clown" behaviors, and we are pointing out that these behaviors significantly annoy other children and will ABSOLUTELY lead to him being socially outcast if it hasn't happened already, notwithstanding her belief that her kid is well liked.  We are not talking about some future theoretical problem, but one that is already occurring or just around the corner, and she is just in denial about it.  I do think part of a parent's job is to anticipate the obvious and foreseeable future consequences and nip problems in the bud.

Believe it or don't believe it I don't care.  But I'm calling it now that it will only continue to get worse next year.   Kids that are disruptive and impulsive are ALWAYS unpopular with their peers, because other kids simply do not want to be around kids who constantly touch them, get in their personal space, mess with their stuff, make rude and inappropriate noises in their ears, talk over them, constantly try to one up them, and generally miss social cues.  They just don't.  This kid is already doing this stuff.  It is not possible for him to avoid the social consequences of this.

Whether being a social outcast and the resulting negative impact that this has on a child's self-worth and emotional well-being is sufficient justification to medicate is open for debate.  But the notion that this particular child is somehow unique among all other kids who display these disruptive behaviors such that he will remain well-liked despite acting in this way is just ridiculous. [/quote]

What I expect to see is a little more heart for this woman who is walking the path that you are already on. [b]Maybe she's not making the choices you would make. Maybe she's not making the "right" choices, but don't tell her that she's making her bed and she'll have to lie in it without complaint if her son crashes and burns. That's not helpful.[/b][/quote]

Well said. To the PPP, what it really seems like is that you are criticizing the OP as a way to justify your own decisions. For one thing, medication is just ONE tool, not the magic solution to all of your child's issues. Have a little compassion and be more open minded to others and their choices. [/quote]

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