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You can't choose something from nothing.  You can only choose it from some basis.  My goal has been and is to give my kids that basis.  The rest is up to them.[/quote]

But that basis doesn't have to be modeling from your parents - it can be, but doesn't have to be.  It could come from teachers, or friends or friends' parents, or the internet, etc.  If could even be the eact opposite of what parents were modeling.

Parents are important, but they don't control their children's natural proclivities.  Anyone who was ever a kid once knows that.[/quote]

Statistically speaking, people who are raised with nothing in the way of religion continue with nothing as adults.  They do not seek out organized religion, in general.

OTOH, people who grow up with religion make choices as adults.  They may choose atheism or be agnostics, but it is a choice and not a default.

I never said that parents control their children's natural proclivities.  In fact, I said the opposite.[/quote]

I haven't seen that statistic -- can you cite a source?  If that's so, it suggests that seeking a religion is not natural to a majority of people  and that if fewer people were indoctrinated as children, fewer would be religious as adults.

What we have now -- at least in the US -- is most people being indoctrinated as children, with some of them dropping religion as they get older.  Some people do it quite easily.  Others go through an immense amount of turmoil.   Seems to me, it would be beter not to indoctrinate in the first place, assuming  religion is natural and generally a good thing for people with a innate tendency toward it. [/quote]

I believe I read about that statistic in the Pew Foundation report on religion, which came out a year or two ago.

It is pretty much impossible for me to converse with you on this when you refer to raising children with certain beliefs and values using the inflammatory term "indoctrination," particularly when you (was it you at 14:28?) cited my parenting practices in this arena as "respecting your kids, teaching them, and allowing them to make their own choices."[/quote]

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