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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Are  you actually saying that someone who contemplates suicide and reaches out for help, but then changes his or her mind and does not do it is "abusive"?

That is a remarkable proposition.[/quote]

No, but I'm not surprised you would take it that way, given your other comments.[/quote]

Here is what was stated:  [b]For those that follow up on their threats, that's unfortunate to use your own wording. For those that don't, that's abuse[/b]

How should I interpret that?  For those that kill themselves:  Unfortunate
For those that don't:  That's abuse.

Apparently I cannot read.  Help me.[/quote]

I mistyped. Where you and I aren't connecting is that you assume every threat, every word about suicide coming from someone's mouth is from a true sense of pain. When that's the case, I think everyone agrees with you that it's awful. But that's not the case, and you're naive if you think every time someone threatens suicide it's an honest threat. There are many times that it's used as a tool to manipulate, and that's what people are saying. For many people, they are left wondering if it's a credible threat or not, and they are manipulated into changing their behavior or staying with someone out of fear, when in reality that person was never going to commit suicide, they just knew the threat would be enough to get what they want.

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Really?  Your proposition is that lots of people not at all suicidal threaten suicide in order to get someone to stay with them?

Seems to me if the goal is one of blackmail, there are many more effective ways to go about it.  Threaten to expose a secret (many are told in intimate relationships).

Pretending to be suicidal.  [b]I've never heard of that one before,[/b] let alone the idea that it is employed by many.  And what is your evidence that people who are not experiencing suicidal ideation threaten it to get what they want, other than that some of them remain alive??[/quote]

Which is why it is obvious you don't work in the domestic violence field. Open your mind up perhaps and realize yours is not the only position or opinion that are valid, and that your facts are one of many to be true.[/quote]

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