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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Well, you have to tease it out a little bit more and not caricature in the manner you do. There are really two aspects of this:  one is the structural critique, the second is how you respond to the situation in which you find yourself.

On the first, it seems to me a reasonable point of view—debatable of course—is that in the aggregate the current trend of late marriage, late childbearing, many sexual partners—is, on average, less conducive to a happy life than earlier marriage and childbearing with fewer sexual partners would be.  So if you are saying that this view is incomprehensible or indefensible, I strongly disagree.  But, it’s a collective action problem and, as you correctly point out, there are a lot of economic incentives that led to the way things currently are.  So perhaps there is nothing to be done with this observation, but I think it’s a reasonable position.

2.  So then, what is to be done?  Obviously there are all sorts of potentially negative scenarios of a more traditional approach, the ones you posit are of course possible negative outcomes. But, there are also many negative outcomes to the current way of doing things too, not least of which are many women who are strung along by feckless guys with no intention of ever settling down into their mid-30s or beyond.  It’s a world of trade-offs, and how you weigh the relative risks depends on your priors about human nature and how the world works.

And while people get all wound around the axle about the “body count” discourse—and I agree there is a lot of negative, unrealistic, and indeed crazy discussion of this issue in places—it seems obvious to me that someone with a body count of, say, 4 very likely has a different perspective on sex and relationships than someone with a body count of 87.  You can’t expect people not to notice this or take it into account in making such an important decision as whom to marry. [/quote]

I actually don’t disagree with your first point, but your first point is compromised by a component of your second point, regarding the feckless men with no intention of settling down.

I am a professional woman who married in her 30s. I would have loved to get married younger, but I didn’t meet my husband until age 35. The men I met earlier were just not interested in marriage. I also knew plenty of my female peers would have loved to get married in their 20s but couldn’t find anyone suitable. It takes both genders cooperating. The only thing this points to is for every woman to pursue a man 10+ years older. Fair enough, but then you have the gap in life experience. Of course “not all men,” but a 35-years older-old man could easily promise the world to his 22-year-old girlfriend only to renege on his promises. In this case, the onus is on the 22-year-old woman to properly assess the honesty and integrity of a man with a decade plus of experience? If she doesn’t hedge her bets, I.e, withhold sex, then she notches her body count before starting all over in the pursuit of marriage, and a year or two older.

Not every woman who marries late or gets to her mid 30s with no husband is there because she “wasted her 20s partying” or something like that. Sometimes it just doesn’t work out. Long term relationships run their course, or someone gets a job in another state, or other life events happen. [/quote]
That entire post you replied to is just AI slop. [/quote]

PP here:  it’s not. I wrote it. And it doesn’t sound like AI slop at all, your ear is miscalibrated.

As for the earlier reply, I agree, and I don’t think women are to blame for the current situation any more than men are. It’s a collective action problem defined by larger social conditions that it is hard for any individual person to opt out of. [/quote]
Stop lying, AI is so easy to spot. If your actual writing is so bad it sounds like AI and uses all the key overused items as AI slop, maybe you should start reading more books and less reddit. [/quote]

You have no idea what you are talking about, lol. [/quote]
If you think anyone believes that was written by a person, you're delusional. All your teachers can tell. The two posts you "wrote" are entirely different syntax. Take your chatgpt and go away. [/quote]

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