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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No.  And use the opportunity to help him understand the motivation behind programs like this for girls.  If he is elementary age, he can understand it.[/quote]

Sort of like Cub Scouts used to be just for boys, until parents of girls ruined that?[/quote]

Cub scouts let girls in because they were in financial trouble and needed a way to boost membership.  And no, it hasn't ruined it for the boys at all. -Mom of a (boy) Cub scout.[/quote]

Of course it has. The entire premise of the organization changed. Just because you have told your son that it’s good and normal doesn’t mean that it is. [/quote]

Literally none of the Scout laws have changed. And thinking that it's not "good and normal" because there were girls at Pinewood Derby today is pretty bonkers.[/quote]

So why can’t boys be at GOTR then? The girls (and boys) can still get exercise and learn leadership skills. Just like by allowing girls into cub scouts, the boys can still race pinewood derby cars.

You can’t have it both ways and roll your eyes and say of course it’s fine to allow girls to join a boys only organization, and simultaneously insist boys can’t join a girls only organization.

Last time I checked, girls could do both Girl Scouts and cub scouts, but boys couldn’t do Girl Scouts. So the message here is that girls can do anything and boys cannot. Look at the best students, the leaders, the art competition winners, the class presidents in your child’s elementary school. Then tell me if it’s girls or boys who are losing their way and losing their sense of belonging right now.

Oh and check the suspension rate for girls vs boys while you’re at it. [/quote]

Look, I'm all for more appropriate developmental approaches to kids in schools.  I've worked to improve my kid's school. But again none of this explains why girls in my son's Cub Scout troop is harmful or not normal, as was claimed previously.

Boy Scouts went coed to survive after the organization massively screwed up with a child abuse scandal (and they have taken steps, as a volunteer I eent through a bunch of training and rules to prevent abuse situation). Girls didn't force their way in or take something away from the boys.

There are also boys running programs, as shown by a quick Google.  Let me Run and Boys Gotta Run for two examples.[/quote]

But boys see that those organizations don’t exist and it is a bit much to expect parents to immediately start one as soon as the boy notices it. Yes we do need to create opportunities for boys but you are not being realistic if you think the same kind of support exists as for girls organizations - in terms of grants, organizing help, etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if many PTAs and schools passively or even actively prevent a boys club from getting off the ground. [/quote]

How do you think the girls organizations got started?  Genuinely.

And I know starting a club isn't easy because I've done it.  But I did do it.  Demanding there's instantly a club for you without putting any work in so... girls stuff bad?  You're tearing down and refusing to build. Do better.[/quote]

No you “do better.”  because we all know that you would be the PTA mom who would withhold the funding for an organization that centers boys. [/quote]

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