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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am independent college counselor and I am from New England.

The only other state that has an elite trio like Virginia's is California. But the UC schools, especially Berkeley, have a huge class availability issue. Berkeley's 4-year graduation rate is in the low 80s as opposed to UVA's low 90s. I am not arguing that the UCs aren't impressive, they absolutely are, just that Virginia is the clearly second and in some ways better for students.

The only other states with three strong state schools are Florida and North Carolina. But the third school in these states are University of Southern Florida and UNC Charlotte respectively, and these can't compare to Virginia Tech. Georgia, Michigan, Texas - none of them have a very strong third school.

To OP: come on, OP. You may not care about affordability but is it such a misery why others do?[/quote]

Virginia has a good range of options, particularly given the state doesn't lavishly fund higher education.

[b]I can't really think of another state that has an equivalent of William and Mary.[/b]  There are others with similar size, but not on history and reputation.  There are state schools like Berkeley, Michigan, Texas, and Georgia Tech that have much greater scale and range in engineering than UVA, but Virginia Tech does a good job of covering that and UVA isn't nearly as large as those schools, which may appeal to some students.  Going beyond these three, VCU is top tier in art and design fields, and other schools have strengths in specific areas.[/quote]
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My oldest is at Berkeley (we're in California), and my younger two wanted to avoid the downsides of going to a big school when they saw what her experience there was like. They wanted a mid-size school with excellent academics and undergraduate teaching, full of "nice kids". They're both very happy at William and Mary.[/quote]

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